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NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:19 PM Jan 2019

Half the South Thinks the U.S. Was Founded as an "Explicitly Christian" Nation

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/12/29/half-the-south-thinks-the-u-s-was-founded-as-an-explicitly-christian-nation/




Half the South Thinks the U.S. Was Founded as an “Explicitly Christian” Nation
By Hemant Mehta, December 29, 2018

When the Treaty of Tripoli was signed in 1796, President John Adams made clear that “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” But it’s just a minor treaty, right? Well, the Constitution effectively says the same thing. As the saying goes, the word “religion” appears twice in the document, both times preceded by the word “no.” We don’t have religious tests for public office and the government can’t endorse religion (much less a particular one).

All of this is apparently new information to half the people in 11 Southern states, who said in a Winthrop University poll that they believe America was founded as an “explicitly Christian nation.”

It’s the sort of misinformation that makes pseudo-historian David Barton tingle in delight while sending shivers up the spine of people who actually know what they’re talking about.

The poll found that half of residents either agree or strongly agree that America was founded as an explicitly Christian nation.

This position is particularly popular among white evangelicals. In the survey, three-fourths of white evangelical respondents agree or strongly agree with this belief about how the nation was founded.

That’s a lot of ignorant people. Specifically, 51% of people polled said the U.S. was founded as an “explicitly Christian nation.” 67% of Republicans are included in that mix, compared to only 38% of Democrats. (By contrast, only 23% of Republicans disagreed or strongly disagreed with that sentiment, along with 52% of Democrats.)
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Half the South Thinks the U.S. Was Founded as an "Explicitly Christian" Nation (Original Post) NeoGreen Jan 2019 OP
42% of White Evangelicals polled agree Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #1
They've been taught that since they were children. Mariana Jan 2019 #4
Many people seem to have little knowledge of their own history. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #15
history qazplm135 Jan 2019 #2
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #6
Preacher said it, so it must be true. Mariana Jan 2019 #3
And the South also believed their brand of Christianity endorsed slavery. no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 #5
Wrong in what way? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #7
1. The Bible endorsed slavery. no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 #8
The US was not founded as a Christian nation. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #11
My bad. The response to what the Southern Christians got wrong. no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 #13
The Bible does endorse slavery. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #16
If it is your contention the Bible is largely incompatible with modern norms... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #17
We are not. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #19
Seems like a pretty good argument that as a moral compass the bible is worthless Major Nikon Jan 2019 #18
Wow. Mariana Jan 2019 #12
Sad. sinkingfeeling Jan 2019 #9
That's why we need to properly fund 2naSalit Jan 2019 #10
The South worries about important things in school. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2019 #14

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. 42% of White Evangelicals polled agree
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

So do 38% of polled Republicans, and... 29% of polled Democrats?

Troubling.

Mariana

(15,120 posts)
4. They've been taught that since they were children.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

At home, in Sunday School, in the sermons, in the private Christian school history classes, and very likely in the public school history classes. Of course they believe it.

no_hypocrisy

(48,813 posts)
5. And the South also believed their brand of Christianity endorsed slavery.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

How many times can you stand to be wrong?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
7. Wrong in what way?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jan 2019

The Bible is stuffed to the gills with rules and regulations re: human bondage and nary a prohibition to be found.

no_hypocrisy

(48,813 posts)
13. My bad. The response to what the Southern Christians got wrong.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jan 2019

I'm 500% in opposition to their misguided (and wrong) opinions.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
16. The Bible does endorse slavery.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jan 2019

And also says that men shall not shave.

What percentage of modern Christians are bearded slaveowners?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. If it is your contention the Bible is largely incompatible with modern norms...
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:43 AM
Jan 2019

...then we are in complete agreement.

Mariana

(15,120 posts)
12. Wow.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:00 PM
Jan 2019

Hardly anyone tries to claim the Bible doesn't endorse slavery, because the Bible so clearly does endorse slavery. Most believers who are embarrassed by that fact try to make excuses for it.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
14. The South worries about important things in school.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jan 2019

Like, blocking technique for the Z receiver. That's what wins games.

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