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MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:10 PM Dec 2018

If only Christians would follow the actual teaching attributed to Jesus,

things might be working somewhat better. Instead, however, they tend to follow the teaching of everyone connected to Christianity except its namesake. Now, I don't know if someone named Jesus or Yeshua actually said the things Jesus was supposed to have said, but then, neither did the writers of the Gospels, who never saw or heard him.

Still, instead of picking out those words from the mass of other language in the New Testament, entire religious denominations are based on the words of Paul, who also never met the man called Jesus in English. Not even close. Never heard him speak. Never laid eyes on him, except in a dream sequence written down to make it seem like he met the namesake of the religion.

Lip service is given to Jesus's teachings by Christianity. You can read those words in the four Gospels, if you care to. You might hear some of them from time to time from the pulpit, just before the page is turned to one of Paul's letters. But those words don't get a lot of attention. The problem is that they're often inconvenient and don't accurately convey the official doctrines of the church or the behavior of the church's leadership. Awkward, that.

Ask a Christian to recite some of Jesus's own words some time. You'll get a recitation of John 3:16 from most, but there it will stop in most cases. There are plenty of those words written down in Matthew, for example, sometimes in long speeches to crowds, and sometimes as folksy parables that get explained. But most Christians can't quote them to you. "List the Beatitudes," you might ask someone. In response, you might get one of those pithy blessings, but that's about it. Ask, "What did Jesus say about wealthy people?" and a few might give you the gist of what he had to say. Or ask about what Jesus said about hypocrites and public prayers. Here and there, you'll find someone who can quote chapter and verse, but it will be rare.

And so it goes. Meanwhile, thousands of children have been sexually abused by priests in recent years. More thousands of women have died screaming due to complications of pregnancy with a child they did not want to conceive. Innocent black men have been lynched by mobs of Christians while a Christian cross burned in the background. "Witches" burned at the stake and "heretics" tortured and killed by Christian priests. The list of wrongs could go on and on. I could write about that list all day long.

It's a 2000 year old story, and it's one of people ignoring the words of the very person for which the religion is named. Isn't that just a kick in the teeth?

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If only Christians would follow the actual teaching attributed to Jesus, (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
Thomas Jefferson recognized this. MineralMan Dec 2018 #1
The only bible I have. sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #2
You're a wise person. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
There is a growing Christian movement safeinOhio Dec 2018 #4
Thanks. I'm aware of that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #5
I can relate as I've been a Secular Humanist for about that long. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #6
I, too, am a student of religion. MineralMan Dec 2018 #7

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
1. Thomas Jefferson recognized this.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:36 PM
Dec 2018

He edited the New Testament down heavily to focus on the words Jesus is supposed to have said. He cut out all the nonsense and focused on the core of the religion.

The Jefferson Bible, people call it. It's only 82 pages long. Everything a Christian really needs can be found in those 82 pages. You can read it at:

https://uuhouston.org/files/The_Jefferson_Bible.pdf

safeinOhio

(34,090 posts)
4. There is a growing Christian movement
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:14 PM
Dec 2018

that focuses on the Red Letter Bible. All of the words spoken by Jesus are in Red Letters. They have been around for years. You can go to redletterbible.org. A very liberal org. Or follow them on Face Book.

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
5. Thanks. I'm aware of that.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:14 PM
Dec 2018

I am no longer a Christian, and have been an atheist for half a century. So I've dealt with all of that tor myself.

safeinOhio

(34,090 posts)
6. I can relate as I've been a Secular Humanist for about that long.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:29 PM
Dec 2018

However, I've always been a student of religion as I find it very interesting, mostly in the culture that it leads to. I have respect of liberal Christian sects that battle for peace and justice.

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
7. I, too, am a student of religion.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:33 PM
Dec 2018

It's self defense. I have no dispute with peaceful religious groups that respect all non-violent philosophies. I have utter contempt for those that do not. I fight those that wish harm on non-adherents.

I know the difference.

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