US sportswear traced to factory in China's internment camps

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

Barbed wire and hundreds of cameras ring a massive compound of more than 30 dormitories, schools, warehouses and workshops in China’s far west. Dozens of armed officers and a growling Doberman stand guard outside.
Behind locked gates, men and women are sewing sportswear that can end up on U.S. college campuses and sports teams.

This is one of a growing number of internment camps in the Xinjiang region, where by some estimates 1 million Muslims are detained, forced to give up their language and their religion and subject to political indoctrination. Now, the Chinese government is also forcing some detainees to work in manufacturing and food industries. Some of them are within the internment camps; others are privately owned, state-subsidized factories where detainees are sent once they are released.

To read more:

https://apnews.com/99016849cddb4b99a048b863b52c28cb

A long article, but more information on how the very repressive Chinese Government is determined to eliminate religion and ethnicity in service to their goal of making brave new citizens for their religion free Utopia.

[Major Nikon]

1. So what's the problem, Gil. Isn't everyone indoctrinated?

[guillaumeb]

4. No comment on the internment camps?

Or the motivation of the Chinese Government?

I understand why you avoid it.

[Major Nikon]

5. I asked a question about that very subject

...and predictably you refused to answer.

Do you actually have any interest in discussion about the topic, or is this just another sermon?

[guillaumeb]

7. Do we agree that this is terrible thing?

I am certain that we do.

So how do we deal with it?

And do we recognize that intolerance is an issue for everyone?

I think we do.

[Major Nikon]

10. Why don't you start with answering mine before demanding answers

...for a change.

Not playin your games anymore, gil. If you can’t manage to answer relevant questions, all you are doing is proving you have no interest in substantive discussion and are simply interested in providing sermons with no critical thinking involved. I get that’s how you were indoctrinated, but reason and critical thinking demand a different course of action.

Just sayin’

[guillaumeb]

11. I offered my opinion.

Just as many here do.

And I see no point in explaining what has been explained many times.

Now that we have settled that, what do you feel that these camps reveal about the Government of China? Aside from the obvious intolerance for theism in any form, is power and absolute the only goal?

[Major Nikon]

12. I'm not going to pretend you didn't dodge the question

Not

Playing

Your

Games

.

[guillaumeb]

15. I thought as much.

Is it because the Chinese Government is run by atheists?

[Major Nikon]

17. The only thing you think about is how to avoid discussion

If you want to come to this group and give sermons, so be it. But please don’t insult the intelligence of everyone by pretending you are all about meaningful discourse when you so often prove you ain’t.

[guillaumeb]

18. So says the gif(t) master.

Real discussion is not endless posts about "religion is the most evil thing in the world", or a constant recitation of specific cases of abuse.

But some here think that it is.

[Major Nikon]

19. So says the name caller

[guillaumeb]

20. I made the same response to another's ad hominem attack earlier.

But, in the spirit of actual dialogue,

Real discussion is not endless posts about "religion is the most evil thing in the world", or a constant recitation of specific cases of abuse.

But some here think that it is.

[Major Nikon]

21. You pretend to play the victim

You even went to the extent of inventing your own rule for this group so you could pretend to be victimized while whining incessantly when you arbitrarily decided your own rule had been broken.

So yeah, we get that, Gil. Just kinda makes you look all the more like a hypocrite when you engage in such lame name calling nonsense. Amazing what you reveal about yourself, eh?

[guillaumeb]

22. So again, you refuse to engage in actual dialogue,

while engaging in ad hominem attacks.

[Major Nikon]

23. Says the name caller who refuses to discuss anything

After so much projection and nonsense, your sermons fall on deaf ears.

[trotsky]

25. Please link to the "endless" posts that claim "religion is the most evil thing in the world."

Because you've been asked to do this before and refused.

I suspect you will refuse again, and try to turn this around to an attack on me.

[Lordquinton]

2. Lot of issues at play regarding China

But this "Chinese Government is determined to eliminate religion and ethnicity in service to their goal of making brave new citizens for their religion free Utopia." is pure fabrication on your behalf.

[guillaumeb]

3. Sure it is.

Perhaps the Chinese Government has other motives.

[Lordquinton]

8. So you admit to fabricating that part?

What are your motives?

[guillaumeb]

9. Fabricating?

What was your motive for making that accusation?

[Major Nikon]

13. You should go back and read your response

... since you evidently didn’t understand it.

[trotsky]

14. Oh, they do, g.

They do. You can't pin this on atheism no matter how many times you try.

[guillaumeb]

16. I understand your need to believe this.

Others share that same feeling.

[trotsky]

24. It's because your agenda is insanely transparent.

If you were simply interested in genuine dialog like you claim to be, your posts would reflect that.

But they do not.

[Major Nikon]

6. Yeah, and a pretty good proof of ignorance

Back when China had its one child policy, ethnic minorities were exempt.