Notre Dame students cite faith as they kneel during national anthem to protest racism

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

Dozens of students at the University of Notre Dame took a knee during the playing of the national anthem at the Catholic school’s football game in South Bend, Ind., this weekend, saying their faith compels them to protest racism.
As “The Star-Spangled Banner” blared before Notre Dame’s last home game of the season on Saturday (Nov. 10), students in six rows of the school’s football stadium suddenly knelt in unison, joining a movement to protest racism and police brutality that has caused controversy for the past two years across professional and scholastic sports contests. Organizers said they estimated around 90 students participated, although the school newspaper reported at least 60.

To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/11/12/notre-dame-students-cite-faith-as-they-kneel-during-national-anthem-to-protest-racism/

[janterry]

1. The Jesuits are teaching them well

n/t

[guillaumeb]

2. I attended a Jesuit University.

Loyola, in Chicago.

[janterry]

3. I went to Boston College

[Dorian Gray]

9. I went to BC, too!

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. Holy Cross here....the Jesuits were great educators!

Had the privilege of taking a number of courses with Dr. John Esposito who made me understand the essence of of all of the worlds great religions. I became a practicing Agnostic after 8 years of Jesuit education...neverlooked back.

[Dorian Gray]

8. ND isn't Jesuit

I believe it was founded by the order of the Holy Cross.

[babylonsister]

4. Recommend!! nt

[underpants]

5. Well well well

Isn't that something

[guillaumeb]

6. And quite welcome.

It is necessary to reframe the issues.

[trotsky]

10. Necessary why?

And reframe for whom?

There is NO ONE on DU who doubts there are religious people doing good things. No one.

Yet you keep insinuating that you need to counter this horrible straw man of your creation.

It's disingenuous, harmful, and demonizes others.

You should behave more like the Christians you claim to admire.

[guillaumeb]

14. For the media at large.

And reframe the dominant media which insists on presenting a very narrow image.

[trotsky]

17. And scolding imaginary people on DU communicates to the "media at large" how, exactly?

I'd love to know.

[guillaumeb]

18. Do you think that I only write and act here?

If so, I understand, but I am quite active in my union, my church, and electorally for the Democratic Party.

[trotsky]

19. So scolding imaginary people on DU helps how, exactly?

You didn't answer.

[MineralMan]

20. How would we know anything about what you do elsewhere?

Here, you are an anonymous screen name who takes weak positions and insists that you are correct. You reveal next to nothing about anything else you do, so you appear to simply be guillaumeb who posts on DU, frequently in the Religion Group.

[Act_of_Reparation]

21. It's gotta be awful for Christians.

Being so misrepresented in the dominant media and all.

[trotsky]

22. Gil doesn't like the reality that conservative Christians greatly outnumber liberal ones.

So in order to support his fictional narrative that it's actually the liberals who have greater numbers, he has to invent a media conspiracy. Instead of reporting on the more common views of Christians being conservative, it's a media conspiracy to hide liberal viewpoints and by boldly posting on Democratic Underground that liberal Christians exist (to the enlightenment of absolutely no one here), he is battling those evil forces in the media. Somehow.

[edhopper]

11. Does Trump think

the school should get rid the SOBs? Someone should ask him.

[guillaumeb]

15. An excellent suggestion.

Fire them all!!

[marylandblue]

12. This must create some cognitive dissonance on the right

Now the sacred duty to stand for the flag conflicts with the sacred duty to do whatever your religion tells you.

[MineralMan]

13. Good point. On the other hand,

some fundamentalist Christians believe Roman Catholics to be tantamount to Satan worshipers. Actually, it's a surprising number who think that way. So, for some students at a Catholic University to protest in that way is not recognized as an act of faith.

It is impossible to lump Christians into any category. They disagree with themselves almost more than atheists disagree with them.

There is no logic in prejudice, nor in bigotry.

[guillaumeb]

16. A measurable dissonance?

Is there a Richter scale to measure cognitive dissonance?