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First DH to hit in the regular season (Original Post) kairos12 Feb 2019 OP
Would you like to see the DH available in the National League? True Dough Feb 2019 #1
I've long been opposed to the DH. However, I recognize my attitude could be of kairos12 Feb 2019 #3
I figured you were a purist True Dough Feb 2019 #4
That's a fine point. I hadn't thought of that. kairos12 Feb 2019 #5
True but it goes both ways. Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #6
NO Auggie Feb 2019 #7
And half of Baseball died. Cartoonist Feb 2019 #2

True Dough

(20,311 posts)
1. Would you like to see the DH available in the National League?
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

I would. The consistency between the AL and NL would be good. Enough of pitchers up there taking hacks.

kairos12

(13,248 posts)
3. I've long been opposed to the DH. However, I recognize my attitude could be of
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:59 PM
Feb 2019

the old man shouting at clouds variety. My biased objection is based on my love of baseball stats and history. I don't think you can fairly compare the stats of a hitter, never forced to play the field, with someone who did. For instance, if Mickey Mantle, with his bad knees, could have hit only would his stats have changed? Endless speculation I know. But it's fun.

True Dough

(20,311 posts)
4. I figured you were a purist
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 01:10 PM
Feb 2019

for exactly the reason you mentioned: all the historic stats. I prefer AL games without the pitcher coming to the plate. It's been in place since 1973. That's a heck of a long time to have two sets of rules.

Another way to look at the DH rule is that it prolongs the careers of some of the all-time great hitters. If Mickey Mantle still swung a potent bat at age 38 but he was a liability in the field, wouldn't you prefer to see him stick around for a few more seasons in a DH role?

kairos12

(13,248 posts)
5. That's a fine point. I hadn't thought of that.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 01:26 PM
Feb 2019

Thank you. I can a halt my nimbus yammering for awhile.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
6. True but it goes both ways.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 01:41 PM
Feb 2019

Just think how the stats of American League pitchers would have been helped from 1973 to present if they only had to face 8 major league batters instead of 9 every game.

Justin Verlander
Jim Palmer
Nolan Ryan
Mike Mussina
Roger Clemens
Roy Halladay
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez

Just imagine the stats of those guys and countless others if they played their entire careers in the National League.

What's even more impressive is that Halladay, Mussina,Pedro and Johnson all spent their prime years in the AL facing the DH and steroids. I purposely ignored Clemens for obvious reasons.

With no DH, Nolan Ryan would have had over 7,000 strikeouts for sure.

Cartoonist

(7,532 posts)
2. And half of Baseball died.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:56 PM
Feb 2019

And there's talk of killing the National League. And they're going to blame Bryce Harper for it.

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