What's up with the East Bay letting the A's leave town?

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Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2024, 09:22 PM - Edit history (1)

You mean to tell me that nobody in Oakland, Berkeley and their wealthy Hills neighborhoods; nor Emeryville, Piedmont, Richmond and towns furhter up the coast. There's Stockton. There's also the suburban communities east of Oakland like Orinda, Dublin, Pleasanton and others even further east.

What? Nobody could get up a group to muster up enough money to replace the ancient Oakland Alameda County Coliseum? It's old all right. I myself once watched Reggie Jackson, Sal Bando, Joe Rudi, Campy Campanerie, Rollie Ringers and the rest win three straight chaampionships there. I lived in North Oakland and Berkeley then.

Hard to believe the town let the A's follow the Raiders and Warriors out of town.

The team, the fans and the East Bay deserved better.

[msongs]

1. they didnt want give millions in welfare to corporate billionaire owners and millionaire players

let the owners pay for new stadiums. tear down the old rotten ones and put up affordable housing

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2. Seems a 50/50 or some kind of agreement could've been reached.

The Raiders and Warriors too. I dunno East Bay.

You're not looking good.

[SomedayKindaLove]

3. A's ownership would rather be in Vegas

City offered the A’s what they wanted, water-front stadium with attached housing and retail. The A’s chose the Strip instead.

City has said they’d be willing to renegotiate if the Vegas deal collapses.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/after-five-years-as-rejected-a-12b-waterfront-ballpark-site-in-oakland-for-9-acres-on-the-strip

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5. Sad. They'll never get them back. Should've sweetened the deal.

The A's are going to Sacramento now. There are two minor league stadiums in Vegas, but nothing worthy of a Major League team.

It might take years to get one built.

[MichMan]

4. Perhaps they were hoping it was a bluff and they wouldn't end up leaving

[usonian]

6. Owners want 100% welfare from cities.

And Oakland is in no GD position to gift arguably one of the richest owners in baseball billions.

The stadium has just been sold by the county to a private owner. That could reset things later, or not.

There are billionaires who could buy the team and undo Fisher's destruction of a world class team when it was under the Hass family ownership, a team he took down the drain. He gets welfare from MLB, called the competitive balance tax (CBT) on other teams, but NO AMOUNT OF WELFARE IS ENOUGH for this billionaire robber baron.

He pays players the least +/- of any team and trades players when their dirt cheap rookie contracts expire. They are all-stars throughout the league. Elsewhere.

Someone could buy the team, as Lacob and Guber did to revive the Warriors, but a move to SF was always in their plans.

And you can't force someone to sell something.

Sacramento has a minor league park unsuitable for major league play. But that's OK with Fisher. Oakland isn't, and will LasVegas sink MORE billions of taxpayer (not gambling) money into a summer sport that plays in 110 degree weather?

It's up to billionaires, not taxpayers, to pay the freight.

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8. I feel for the fans and the East Bay. The Vegas deal might fall apart...

as there are two minor league parks in Vegas but neither is suitable for a major league team.

Similar situation in Sacramento. It could take years to get a stadium buillt there or in Vegas, as the Raiders are certainly not going share their new digs which would reqire puttng in a baseball, dirt infield, like they used to do back in the day with thos combo stadiums...none still exist btw.

It's just too bad. The A's could be in an inadequate minor league park for years.

[usonian]

9. Runs down list of billionaires who don't own teams ..

Ellison? Maybe
Musk? No
Zuck? No idea.

There are others.

Clorox has HQ in Oakland, IIRC.
They could "clean up" with a well-paid team. Oakland had Matt Chapman, Sean Murphy, Matt Olson, Jonah Heim, Marcus Semien, Sonny Gray, Sean Manaea, Chris Bassitt, Jesús Luzardo, Frankie Montas, AND Stephen Vogt, who manages Cleveland, which I recall, is leading their division.

Who's going to make Fisher an offer he can't refuse?

[SomedayKindaLove]

11. Which many not sit well with the MLBPA

Especially considering the excessive heat in Sacramento.

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12. Well, Sacramento gets hot, but not Vegas hot. That's desert hot.

[SomedayKindaLove]

13. If the stadium in Vegas is built

It will be a dome.

[Alansworld]

7. Three words...

Fuck John Fisher

[RockRaven]

10. Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me--you can't get fooled again.

All those municipalities have had a front row seat to the Oakland-Alameda experience, and the Santa Clara experience, and have decided that even partial public funding of stadiums or bending over backwards to accommodate stadium construction is a boondoggle.

[Auggie]

14. The lying liar Rob Manfred, MLB commissioner, wanted them to leave too

He backed Fisher 100%. There was no deal the city or county could have offered that would have kept the team in Oakland. Manfred wanted baseball in a new market. If not Las Vegas it would have been Nashville or Mexico City.

[jmowreader]

15. The biggest problem the Athletics have is on the west side of the Bay

The Giants have that really nice park to play baseball in, and TBH how many God-awful baseball teams does one area need? The Cubs at least have the grace to not suck all the time.