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brush

(57,509 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:10 PM Nov 2023

The Raiders finally did the right thing and fired HC McDaniels.

Last edited Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Woohoo. He took a team that was in the playoffs two years ago (rallied by QB Derek Carr after the Rush car wreck deaths and the Gruden racist debacle), and the team became a loser, 9-25, for the year and half he was head coach.

And btw, he not only benched Carr who had got the team off to 10+ point first half leads in 6 games only to see McDaniels' defense lose those games in the second half, as I said, he not only benched Carr, he sent him home, out of the building and made him the scapegoat for the team losing.

I was saying last year after he did that to Carr that McDaniels was a sorry coach and needed to go. Mark Davis finally got it an fired him, the OC coordinator and the GM in the middle of the night last night after the team's inept showing on Monday Night Football. It was embarrassing and the whole nation saw it.

Oh, and the "great" QB pick up McDaniels bought in, Garapallo and the OC coordinator, couldn't figure out how to get the ball to the best receiver in the league, Devante Adams.

That pair also got rid of Darren Waller, a standout tight end, wouldn't pay their league-leading running back Josh Jacobs who held out and didn't get pre-season work, they just about disappeared effective slot receiver Hunter Renfrow from getting targeted in the games...they just all together screwed up and didn't know what the hell they were doing.

McDaniels failed in Denver as a HC (riding his rep as OC with the Patriots, but it shows clearly now that anybody could appear to be good when Tom Brady was your QB, even Bill Belichick.

I say kudos to Mark Davis for this decisive move...this from a long-time Raider fan who goes all the way back the glory days of the Mad Bomber, Ken Stabler, Cliff Branch, Jack Tatum, the Mad Stork, Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen, Ben Davidson and all the great players when the franchise was one of the great ones, went to 5 Super Bowls and won 3.

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The Raiders finally did the right thing and fired HC McDaniels. (Original Post) brush Nov 2023 OP
Listening to Bertrand and Zolak right now. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #1
Oh, you're in Boston? Is that senitment about whether it was Brady or Belichick... brush Nov 2023 #2
Bill is reaching the emd of the line in NE, I think. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #7
It's good to stop digging once you realize you're in a hole, but Mark Davis RockRaven Nov 2023 #3
Yes, he did hire McDaniels, but at least he finally realized his mistake. brush Nov 2023 #8
They might get usonian Nov 2023 #4
I'm not mad at that. He got the 49ers to the Super Bowl with... brush Nov 2023 #5
I have no idea why Harbaugh would come back into the NFL underpants Nov 2023 #6
Perhaps Michigan is about to have a major scandal that will put the team back for FSogol Nov 2023 #10
Maybe underpants Nov 2023 #11
Looks like Rivera is safe in DC. underpants Nov 2023 #15
Nah, Rivera is done after the season. N/t FSogol Nov 2023 #17
I spoke too soon. underpants Nov 2023 #18
That's just Patriot fans trying to ship him out. The ownership secretly signed him to an extension FSogol Nov 2023 #19
Annie on X says "End of an era" underpants Nov 2023 #9
He could always run for senator from Alabama. Ray Bruns Nov 2023 #12
What does that mean. brush Nov 2023 #13
Referencing Tommy Tuberville. Since coaching a football team seems to be the only qualification for Public Office Ray Bruns Nov 2023 #14
I got you, and I agree. And he lives in Flori-duh, Alabama voters. brush Nov 2023 #16
Surely..this is it..right? I mean..he's not getting another coaching job? Fix The Stupid Nov 2023 #20
Agreed. Your post is on the money with every sentence... brush Nov 2023 #21

OAITW r.2.0

(28,369 posts)
1. Listening to Bertrand and Zolak right now.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:19 PM
Nov 2023

This is the #1 radio/tv show in Boston, discussing this situation. They think that Belichick could find a landing spot on LV.

brush

(57,509 posts)
2. Oh, you're in Boston? Is that senitment about whether it was Brady or Belichick...
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:26 PM
Nov 2023

being discussed openly there too?

You probably know Brady is a part-owner of the Raiders now, but we need a young, innovative coach like that other McDaniels, Mike, in Miami, or maybe Eric Bieniemy who has made the Washington team competitive with his play calling. No one would give him a chance at HC. I say give him a shot.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,369 posts)
7. Bill is reaching the emd of the line in NE, I think.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:43 PM
Nov 2023

The general concensus seems to be-
(1) Time for a new coach. It was Brady that made Bill the HC he was.
(2) Bill's sour demeanor in post game press conferences is more problematic now that he's in a 4 year losing ja
g.

RockRaven

(16,275 posts)
3. It's good to stop digging once you realize you're in a hole, but Mark Davis
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:29 PM
Nov 2023

created the hole in the first place. And not for the first time.

His head coach decisions are... disappointing (to say it as politely as possible).

Will next time be different? One can only hope.

brush

(57,509 posts)
8. Yes, he did hire McDaniels, but at least he finally realized his mistake.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:46 PM
Nov 2023

Now lets see what he does. Getting Harbaugh out of Michigan would be a good move. I also would like someone to give Eric Bieniemy a shot at HC. He's doing a good job as OC in making the Washington team competitive. They almost beat the Eagles on Sunday.

underpants

(186,647 posts)
6. I have no idea why Harbaugh would come back into the NFL
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:40 PM
Nov 2023

College coaches at massive programs like Michigan are kings of their own fiefdom. No other big team in town and the reporters tend to be more on the homer side.

I hear the Bears fans clamoring for him but if Rivera gets fired in DC (looks like they sold off their season) he may get the Bears job first.

FSogol

(46,525 posts)
10. Perhaps Michigan is about to have a major scandal that will put the team back for
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:50 PM
Nov 2023

a while. Wouldn't that be a major co-winky-dink? /s?

underpants

(186,647 posts)
11. Maybe
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:53 PM
Nov 2023

I don’t see the sign stealing thing going very far but who knows.


From PTI yesterday. The sign stealer rose up from the background a couple times.



?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A

underpants

(186,647 posts)
15. Looks like Rivera is safe in DC.
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 10:42 AM
Nov 2023

Good article here on why Washington made these moves. Both are free agents at the end of the year and they went 4-2 last year without both so it was decided to spend money elsewhere. Young appears to be a headache. Hurt a lot and he doesn’t follow the called plays which messes everything else up. Washington thinks they can get production for less money. Also they will have 5 picks now out of the first 100 draft picks and have $90M to spend in free agency (with picks to deal with too).

Looks like new ownership has more of a long range plan and I don’t see them doing that with a new coaching staff too.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38788272/why-commanders-traded-chase-young-montez-sweat-nfl-trade-deadline

FSogol

(46,525 posts)
19. That's just Patriot fans trying to ship him out. The ownership secretly signed him to an extension
Fri Nov 3, 2023, 11:07 AM
Nov 2023

in the offseason. They'll keep him until he breaks Don Shula's coaching record.

Ray Bruns

(4,604 posts)
14. Referencing Tommy Tuberville. Since coaching a football team seems to be the only qualification for Public Office
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 06:28 AM
Nov 2023

he has and the only one the people in Alabama require

Fix The Stupid

(962 posts)
20. Surely..this is it..right? I mean..he's not getting another coaching job?
Fri Nov 3, 2023, 01:33 PM
Nov 2023


Have we not seen enough?

I think we can put to bed the "Belichek vs Brady" wars too...

Belichek is an a$$ who wouldn't have won squat without Brady.

Can we knock this ignorant, smarmy, arrogant prick off his pedestal yet? Belicheck, I mean...

And if any team is dumb enough to hire Mcdaniels to do anything but sweep the floor, well that is on them and they deserve everything they get.

Enough of this "belicheck coaching tree' bullshit. They have ALL failed.



brush

(57,509 posts)
21. Agreed. Your post is on the money with every sentence...
Fri Nov 3, 2023, 01:53 PM
Nov 2023

on McDaniels, Belichick, his coaching tree, and Brady.

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