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OAITW r.2.0

(28,361 posts)
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:42 PM May 2021

Best athletes, teams-wise - Hockey or Basketball or Soccer or American football or Rugby?

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Same basic team concept, but totally different skills required. Hockey requires constant line changes to keep the game movings, but basketball requires a lot more endurance over the course of the game. Playing BB was a challenge, but skating with a stick was pretty damn physically exhausting....

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Best athletes, teams-wise - Hockey or Basketball or Soccer or American football or Rugby? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 OP
Hockey players are in amazing physical shape. bottomofthehill May 2021 #1
I agree.....the energy needed to move and maintain balance takes it to another level, IMHO. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #2
Plus 200 pound bodies are constantly crashing into each outer bottomofthehill May 2021 #3
The hits can be brutal. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #4
When younger and in reasonably good shape bottomofthehill May 2021 #5
forwards change much faster than three mins... OneBlueDotS-Carolina May 2021 #7
Growing up, I played pond hockey....3 minutes was too much. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #8
Very good explanation of current shift times OneBlueDotS-Carolina May 2021 #10
NHL shifts are very different from "beer league" caraher May 2021 #13
LOL, great perspective! OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #14
Soccer dem4decades May 2021 #6
Soccer and Hockey share a lot in terms of scoring concept. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #9
I remember when the old TV shows pitted athletes against each other to find the fittest. dem4decades May 2021 #11
I remember when I thought Bruce Jenner was the great American individual story....but not as OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #12
Lacrosse is also very demanding unc70 May 2021 #15
More brutal than Hockey? OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #16
Almost no padding, minimal protective gear unc70 May 2021 #17
I get it...the dudes that played Lacrosse at my school were a special breed. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #18
Hockey for conditioning, basketball for overall athleticism. bluedigger May 2021 #19

bottomofthehill

(8,822 posts)
1. Hockey players are in amazing physical shape.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:45 PM
May 2021

The Jane eye coordination of baseball players, the strength of football players (not linemen), the endurance of basketball and soccer players. A hockey player is an amazing athlete

bottomofthehill

(8,822 posts)
3. Plus 200 pound bodies are constantly crashing into each outer
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:53 PM
May 2021

With it with out the boards getting her buy a 200 pound guy moving at a high rate of speed sucks.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,361 posts)
4. The hits can be brutal.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:59 PM
May 2021

And they are frequent. No wonder you need bench time after 3 minutes of action....

bottomofthehill

(8,822 posts)
5. When younger and in reasonably good shape
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:04 PM
May 2021

A two minute shift was a long time, in the NHL, a minute is too long.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,432 posts)
7. forwards change much faster than three mins...
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:06 PM
May 2021

Most are under 50 seconds...defense a touch longer, depends on the pace of the game...stay out too long, hard to recover.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,361 posts)
8. Growing up, I played pond hockey....3 minutes was too much.
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:11 PM
May 2021

I did not realize that changes happen that frequently....I thought it was 2-3 max.

caraher

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13. NHL shifts are very different from "beer league"
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:50 PM
May 2021

Under 1 minute is common at the highest level; as you move down the food chain into recreational hockey, shifts get longer.

I remember one team I was on (recreational) we had an "extra" forward (that is, we had I think two full lines plus one forward) and I suggested that the oldest guy, the most overweight guy and I (also on the older end) just share left wing for the whole game. We did, I think all of us got a point or two because we skated closer to our top speed than we would have skating every other shift.

The next week, same situation. But the big guy balked, saying, "But I'm getting less ice time." Well, when the last 60 seconds of your shift consists of standing around by the boards too gassed to move, what's the point of "ice time?" His shifts often ran long in part because he wasn't fast enough to change on the fly! Anyway, that ended what I thought was a very effective experiment.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,361 posts)
14. LOL, great perspective!
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:56 PM
May 2021

Never played to your level, not even close. My primary experience was maintaining ice balance while trying to handle the puck in make up games.

OAITW r.2.0

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9. Soccer and Hockey share a lot in terms of scoring concept.
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:15 PM
May 2021

You have to have endurance to play soccer....no line changes for you! I ought to change my OP to add soccer and American football....that would interesting!

dem4decades

(11,911 posts)
11. I remember when the old TV shows pitted athletes against each other to find the fittest.
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:20 PM
May 2021

Kyle Rote Jr, a soccer player, always won, at least that's how I remember it.

The bowlers and race car drivers didn't fare so well. Lol

OAITW r.2.0

(28,361 posts)
12. I remember when I thought Bruce Jenner was the great American individual story....but not as
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:29 PM
May 2021

socially important as John Carlos and Tommie Smith's accomplishments in '68.

OAITW r.2.0

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16. More brutal than Hockey?
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:24 PM
May 2021

It's about speed of contact. Don't know much about lacrosse, but it seems like a turf version of hockey.

unc70

(6,325 posts)
17. Almost no padding, minimal protective gear
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:00 AM
May 2021

Running full speed, hitting with big sticks, full contact. You will have to judge for yourself how it compares with the other sports.

Right now is a good time to see good lacrosse competition. This weekend is the NCAA Final Four in men's and women's lacrosse. The ESPN networks and apps have full coverage starting at noon Friday and Saturday.

FYI field hockey is the turf version of hockey.

OAITW r.2.0

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18. I get it...the dudes that played Lacrosse at my school were a special breed.
Tue May 25, 2021, 12:07 AM
May 2021

You played or you didn't. Great athletes...even better partiers.

bluedigger

(17,148 posts)
19. Hockey for conditioning, basketball for overall athleticism.
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:46 PM
May 2021

Soccer is out due to lack of upper body use (other than the occasional header), and football wins for strength. Don't know enough about rugby to fairly judge, but it seems like it's a blend of the others. Baseball wins for hand eye coordination.

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