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Hello, I would like to submit a short story for review. (Original Post) clarice Oct 2014 OP
I wouldn't post a story on DU. CrispyQ Oct 2014 #1
I want people to steal my stuff Sweeney Dec 2014 #7
So you're okay with someone taking your work, word for word, & trying to publish it as their own? CrispyQ Dec 2014 #8
Sure. Okay with it. You can't actually steal written art. Sweeney Dec 2014 #9
You have a unique outlook. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #10
I want to change the world Sweeney Dec 2014 #11
I like that. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #12
Stay tooned Sweeney Dec 2014 #13
the problem is, that posts here, get recycled quickly. Hoppy Oct 2014 #2
What kind of a short story? SheilaT Oct 2014 #3
I use ScriptShark when I need feedback or coverage. TeamPooka Oct 2014 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #6
Thank you to everyone. Great advice.nt clarice Oct 2014 #5

CrispyQ

(38,269 posts)
1. I wouldn't post a story on DU.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 11:21 AM
Oct 2014

You have copyright protection on your creative work, and you should put a copyright notice on all of your work, but that doesn't mean someone unscrupulous won't steal it. Here's what I put at the bottom of my stories/manuscript but I still only post with people I trust.

Copyright © CrispyQ 2014 All Rights Reserved.
No part of this document may be reproduced without written consent from the author.

I found my critique group via Meetup.com. They are great & getting critiqued by other people has been so good for my writing! I took 5 chapters that I'd written, saved it all to flash drive & started over last month. I have 4 new chapters & it is so much better!


How many words is your story? What genre? I might be interested if it's not too long. PM me with details.

on edit: Here's some inspiration: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12021406#post5

Sweeney

(505 posts)
7. I want people to steal my stuff
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:31 PM
Dec 2014

Thievery will add value to it just as any other form of commerce. Do you want to tell a story? Do you want to change the world with words? Put me last. I think I am a good writer with great ideas for movies and stories. I would give them away to see them published in some fashion. I am not dying for the money. The thrill is the creative act, telling the story, telling your story. Forget that blockheads write for free. I write to get something, some thought, some story, some fact or feeling out of me. I don't care if some one cooks my mental baby with the afterbirth for lunch. because my part in the process is done. I cannot say what people will do with the product of my labor. You can hope, and you can care, but you can never control. If it were possible to know and not because you are dead, if you wrote a great story and dropped dead and some one made a movie that totally got the story wrong, but it sold millions, but yours was the dirt their idea grew out of, would it be worth it. Don't we all want to do something frosted and sparkling with art?

Consider Falkner. There was a guy trying to support two families and forced by this situation to know long months of deprivation and loneliness in hollywood where he may have sold a story or two, but got little of movie credits. His boss, the studio boss bragged of having the best writer in America working for peanuts. One movie where he got credit he made little contribution because is long monologues were unsuited to movies where dialog is action, he did give a famous line to one of the characters, that of an old rummy sailer who would ask people if they had ever been bit by a dead bee. You can know who the real people are by who treats you real. Its a device, and movies are full of characters with devices.

Now; as I lay dying has become a movie, and it is the most horrible, drawn out adventure seen through the eyes of a child. I can guarantee that this movie will trash Falkner's tale of heartbreak and pain as though these children were but Odysseus' crew following him on his vain quest to get a new wife and a set of false teeth. I have heard stories of the abruptness and cruelty of Falkner as an old drunk at the University in Oxford. I can hardly imagine a more sympathetic treatment of human folly and its aftermath. What a story. I doubt they could find a character in movies as simple and pure as the daughter in this tale, or one, even in this day so destined to disaster.

Any way; we could have a contest, but I am sure I would take the prize.

Sweeney

CrispyQ

(38,269 posts)
8. So you're okay with someone taking your work, word for word, & trying to publish it as their own?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

Cool. You are more evolved than I am.

on edit: A contest is a fun idea. Kind of like the photography contest in the Photo group. Make it flash fiction so people would actually read it. Maybe limit it to 3 finalist not 10 like the photo group. Go for it!

Sweeney

(505 posts)
9. Sure. Okay with it. You can't actually steal written art.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:42 PM
Dec 2014

All you can do is pretend too, and that is the deepest most honest compliment a writer can receive. Who steals a thing must value it highly or value their soul lowly.

Consider what Shakespeare said: Sans everything. Think of Aristippus, my hero of Greek Philosophy. He was shipwrecked and had to swim to shore. On shore he met people in the square and after talking to them they took him in and fed him. And he said that is how parents should educate their children, so if washed overboard in some distant land that they would have the skills essential to their own support. To lose all and have your life is wonderful. To save all and lose your life is sad. I know when to let go. I write for pleasure. If you take pleasure in my writing we have both what I wanted. Enjoy. Don't spend it all in one place.

Thanks...

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
2. the problem is, that posts here, get recycled quickly.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:06 PM
Oct 2014

Your effort will stay on top of the thread for a day or two at most. More likely, it will disappear in about two hours.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. What kind of a short story?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 12:31 PM
Oct 2014

There are on-line critique groups. I stumbled across some a while back.

If you write science fiction, there are lots of resources. Here's a link to SFWA's page with links to on line workshops and the like: http://www.sfwa.org/2009/06/links-to-writers-workshops/

I agree that you should not post it here. It's far too open a place. Even a note that it's copyrighted is not real protection, because that can be deleted. And, to put your own copyright notice on anything you submit is considered the mark of an amateur.

See if there's a group nearby through MeetUp. If not, consider starting one of your own. A good critique group is fabulous, if you can get into one, or start one. I don't know about the rest of the world out there, but a lot of completely established s-f authors remain as part of a critique group.

I would also tell you to see if there are any nearby writers conferences you can go to. Many of the conferences are wonderful, put you in touch with other writers as well as, at least sometimes, agents and editors. You will got a lot from such a conference.

Good luck! Writing can be a lonely venture, and it can be very hard to get the feedback you need.

Oh, and where do you live? I'm in Santa Fe, and a few of us are just getting a brand new s-f critique group off the ground here.

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