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Jilly_in_VA

(10,877 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 05:00 PM May 2023

Stained glass window shows Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race in New England

A nearly 150-year-old stained-glass church window that depicts a dark-skinned Jesus Christ interacting with women in New Testament scenes has stirred up questions about race, Rhode Island’s role in the slave trade and the place of women in 19th century New England society.

The window installed at the long-closed St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Warren in 1878 is the oldest known public example of stained glass on which Christ is depicted as a person of color that one expert has seen.

“This window is unique and highly unusual,” said Virginia Raguin, a professor of humanities emerita at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and an expert on the history of stained-glass art. “I have never seen this iconography for that time.”

The 12-foot tall, 5-foot wide (3.7 meters by 1.5 meters) window depicts two biblical passages in which women, also painted with dark skin, appear as equals to Christ. One shows Christ in conversation with Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, from the Gospel of Luke. The other shows Christ speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well from the Gospel of John.

https://apnews.com/article/jesus-christ-stained-glass-dark-skinned-49c3d84ab5a939beba621bc1ae54eda0

Icons in Orthodox churches, from Coptic to Russian, all depict Jesus with dark toned skin, as any Middle Eastern man would have. And so?

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Stained glass window shows Jesus Christ with dark skin, stirring questions about race in New England (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA May 2023 OP
Well, as has been pointed out about "Black Cleopatra"-- viva la May 2023 #1
And so...early American whites well knew Jesus was a brown man...The whitewashing of the new Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #2
Ben Carson's Jesus - not the evangelicals' blond, blue-eyed Jesus keithbvadu2 May 2023 #3
every culture creates its gods in the image of that culture. white culture, white jesus. black msongs May 2023 #4
How would a middle eastern Jew be white? dlk May 2023 #5
Cleveland Jesus - that's what my uncle calls the "model" white Jesus of the US. Probatim May 2023 #6
If Jesus came to Cleveland Jilly_in_VA May 2023 #7

viva la

(3,775 posts)
1. Well, as has been pointed out about "Black Cleopatra"--
Sun May 14, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

the skin color of people in the Middle East and North Africa is closer to "dark" than "light."

The Scandinavian Jesus of the last millennium was the real travesty.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
2. And so...early American whites well knew Jesus was a brown man...The whitewashing of the new
Sun May 14, 2023, 05:15 PM
May 2023

brand of colonial Christian had to precede sending ships towards Africa and the Middle East…for slaves who definitely not same color as Jesus!

msongs

(70,170 posts)
4. every culture creates its gods in the image of that culture. white culture, white jesus. black
Sun May 14, 2023, 06:19 PM
May 2023

culture, black jesus. scandinavian jesus is possible but less likely, just as sub saharan black jesus is possible but less likely. considering the jesus character is a myth the racial identity is probably somewhere in the middle of the two extremes statistically speaking

Probatim

(3,013 posts)
6. Cleveland Jesus - that's what my uncle calls the "model" white Jesus of the US.
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:15 PM
May 2023

Looks like any white guy off the street in middle America.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,877 posts)
7. If Jesus came to Cleveland
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:11 PM
May 2023

(or Detroit, or most any big city in the US) he'd most likely be Black nowadays. Just saying. I mean, since he was among the poor and a tradesman. Or maybe he'd be Latino. In any case, not blonde and blue-eyed.

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