Update: Cannot. Fucking. Win. Re: "Stimulus payment" for SS Recipients

[lillypaddle]

Last edited Sat Apr 18, 2020, 05:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Just wanted to let folks know not to give up - I finally got through on their "my payment" and it said my check will be mailed April 24th. Should have been deposited, but whatever - I'll take it! It was 1:30 in the morning when I finally got through, and received an answer and not an error message. We'll see, though ...

Okay. First, I heard if you do NOTHING, and have your SS income deposited to your bank account, they will automatically deposit this money by direct deposit.

Second, I heard that you need to file a 2019 tax return. So I did on free turbo-tax. Nothing owed, nothing refunded.

3rd I heard that it isn't necessary to file a return. If your banking info is where your SS is direct-deposited, all should be fine and the money will be deposited directly to that account.

So today I checked at the IRS site for "Get My Payment" and it said that they didn't have my banking info, even though that is how my SS income is deposited. So I tried to fill out their form, providing my information. Long story short, There is a problem. AND they are having technical difficulties.

Can't call. No local IRS offices are open.

WTF now? Any suggestions?

[rzemanfl]

1. If you can, just wait for check in the mail.

They used the Social Security 1099 to verify eligibility. It has your address.

[SheltieLover]

8. But they are saying 5 months for paper checks

because shitstain wants his name on them.

[Totally Tunsie]

33. They're already beginning to come out. Mine arrived on Wednesday.

I have no idea why I received a paper check. The SSA has my bank info for my Direct Deposit, and I filed taxes for both 2018 (paid) and 2019 (0/0). The "Get My Payment" feature showed my check to be mailed on the 24th. I had it in hand on the 22nd.

[lillypaddle]

10. I'm sure it will eventually show up ...

I just paid a bunch of medical bills thinking the deposit was on its way. My bad. SS is my only income.

[rzemanfl]

22. Uh-oh. Didn't we have an exchange about this a while back? n/t

[lillypaddle]

23. We did.

[DeminPennswoods]

2. Contact your congressional representative

Their staff are working from home, but I had was able to reach a staffer for my rep who was very helpful.

[lillypaddle]

9. Let's see now ...

Thant would be Rand Paul or Mitch McConnell in the Senate
and Andy Barr in the House I'm fucked.

[wryter2000]

11. Barr's staff should help

That's what they're there for. He probably voted for the bill, anyway. Most Republicans did.

[lillypaddle]

14. I'll give it a few days and then contact his office

thanks.

[DeminPennswoods]

26. Staffers are pretty non-partisan, they are there to help

constituents.

[lillypaddle]

27. Thanks. I'll try in a couple of days

when the dust settles.

[DeminPennswoods]

29. The worst that can happen is you'll be in

the same spot you are now, right?

[saidsimplesimon]

3. I checked my account today, no deposit of $1,200.

Are they sending them out in bundles by a numerical list of SSNs? Are they sending them out in alphabetical order?

Sounds like we need someone like Maddow or a journalist to get a reliable answer.

[BamaRefugee]

4. I have SS direct deposited and haven't gotten it. But the IRS took money OUT of my bank

right on time today.
My ex, who got laid off from her job of 22 years last week got her $1200 in the bank this morning. She applied for SS on Friday, so maybe she benefitted for not being a SS recipient yet?

I just checked the "get My Payment" site, and yeah, CANNOT WIN, here's what I get back:
link:https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof-wmsp/error-generic|

I know I'm gonna have to make endless phone calls, fill out forms, argue with people....fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[lillypaddle]

28. I feel you

[Thomas Hurt]

5. It may still be direct deposited, you just weren't in the first round of disbursements.

[lark]

6. Evwerything associated with orange thing is a fustercluck, every single thing.

Funny the only thing that partially works is him stealing the 500 billion and giving people like himself bigger money than was given to hospitals. My rage at him just continues to grow and grow. Luckily, unless Hair Furor stops Social Security, we're doing OK and don't really NEED the $$. We were just going to keep it in the bank for our next travels, whenever that may be. My son is a different story, he desperately needs his and got a paper check and he can't get in to add his information either.

[elleng]

7. Wait.

There are 209,128,094 adults in the U.S. 18 and over, and MANY are asking similar questions; note those here, on DU.

THINK about the difficulty in establishing programs for distribution, and give the bureaucrats time.

[lillypaddle]

12. You're right elleng

It's just that sometimes it feels like there isn't any time left ...

[WVreaper]

13. We received our stimulus money today by direct deposit.

We both collect Social Security. Mine started in September and my wife started in October 2018 taxes filed last year. Just filed 2019 last week and we owed money because of the Social Security benefits.

[lillypaddle]

15. Glad it's working for someone

Welcome to DU

[question everything]

16. You are not alone

IRS Stimulus Payment Website Turns Into One Big Error Message After Launch

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213292386

[Amaryllis]

17. Got this from my congressman about how to do it:

https://blumenauerforms.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=F3ND3GWVCQZFGM7WGUIKZ24HK4

Today, the Treasury Department and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) launched a new web tool to allow for quick registration for the COVID-19 Economic Impact Payments to those that don’t normally file a tax return.

Here's some information from the IRS:
How do I use the Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info tool?
For those who don’t normally file a tax return, the process is simple and only takes a few minutes to complete. First, visit IRS.gov, and look for “Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info Here.” Then provide basic information including Social Security number, name, address, and dependents. The IRS will use this information to confirm eligibility and calculate and send an Economic Impact Payment. Using the tool to get your payment will not result in any taxes being owed. Entering bank or financial account information will allow the IRS to deposit your payment directly in your account. Otherwise, your payment will be mailed to you.
“Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info” is secure, and the information entered will be safe. The tool is based on Free File Fillable Forms, part of the Free File Alliance’s offerings of free products on IRS.gov.
Who should use the Non-Filers tool?
This new tool is designed for people who did not file a tax return for 2018 or 2019 and who don’t receive Social Security retirement or disability benefits or Railroad Retirement benefits. Others who should consider the Non-Filers tool as an option, include:
Lower income: Among those who could use Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info tool are those who haven’t filed a 2018 or 2019 return because they are under the normal income limits for filing a tax return. This may include single filers who made under $12,200 and married couples making less than $24,400 in 2019.
Veterans beneficiaries and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) recipients: The IRS continues to explore ways to see if Economic Impact Payments can be made automatically to SSI recipients and those who receive veterans disability compensation, pension or survivor benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs and who did not file a tax return for the 2018 or 2019 tax years. People in these groups can either use Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info option now or wait as the IRS continues to review automatic payment options to simplify delivery for these groups.
Social Security, SSDI and Railroad Retirement beneficiaries with qualifying dependents: These groups will automatically receive $1,200 Economic Impact Payments. People in this group who have qualifying children under age 17 may use Non-Filers: Enter Payment Info to claim the $500 payment per child.
Students and others: If someone else claimed you on their tax return, you will not be eligible for the Economic Impact Payment or using the Non-Filer tool.
Coming next week: Automatic payments begin
Eligible taxpayers who filed tax returns for either 2019 or 2018 and chose direct deposit of their refund will automatically receive an Economic Impact Payment of up to $1,200 for individuals or $2,400 for married couples and $500 for each qualifying child. Individuals who receive Social Security retirement or disability benefits, SSDI or who receive Railroad Retirement benefits but did not file a return for 2019 or 2018 will automatically receive a payment in the near future.
Also coming next week: Get My Payment shows Economic Impact Payment date, helps with direct deposit
To help everyone check on the status of their payments, the IRS is building a second new tool expected to be available for use by April 17. Get My Payment will provide people with the status of their payment, including the date their payment is scheduled to be deposited into their bank account or mailed to them.
An additional feature on Get My Payment will allow eligible people a chance to provide their bank account information so they can receive their payment more quickly rather than waiting for a paper check. This feature will be unavailable if the Economic Impact Payment has already been scheduled for delivery.
More Information on Economic Impact Payments
The IRS will post additional updates on IRS.gov/coronavirus on these and other issues.

Visit my website for more information on economic resources available to you during COVID-19.


Courage,

Earl Blumenauer
Member of Congress

[mzmolly]

18. Keep trying the website:

https://www.freefilefillableforms.com/#/fd/EconomicImpactPayment

Good luck!

[lillypaddle]

30. That's the rub

I don't usually file a tax return, but I did this time for 2019 because I thought I needed to.

[Clearly fogged in]

19. The entries require hyphens and slashes

It took a few times, and finally by entering the hyphens in the SSN field, and dashes on the dob the info was accepted.

The site informed me that my banking information was needed - on 2018 form 1040 it is line 20b, c, and d

it was correct on my 1040 and I had overpaid in 2018; why they didn't have it makes no sense

[questionseverything]

20. so sorry you are going thru this

it seems to be kind of hit and miss as to who has already received verses who hasn't

I "think" the no banking info is going out like an error message ,cause I have heard the same locally from a couple of friends today, I think the system is just overloaded

try checking in the middle of the night if you can, the system shouldn't be as busy then

[Progressive dog]

21. Mine was deposited with my SS payment

as of today. Have not filed a 2019 return yet. Did file one in 2018.
One of my sons has never let the IRS have access to his bank account, he waits for the check in the mail. He tried to use "get my payment" and couldn't connect until the fourth try. There was then a problem, so he gave up for now.

[hedda_foil]

24. Have you checked your bank account online?

That's how I found out that mine was deposited today.

[lillypaddle]

31. Yes

My regular SS payment was deposited today, right on time. No other payment.

[WePurrsevere]

25. The IRS site is definitely having issues...

From all I've been reading if you didn't need to file for the last 2 years but you get Soc Security (Retirement and Disability) the stimulus will be deposited into the same account where you normal monthly deposit goes within the next couple of weeks. If you had to file last or this year and have done do you'll probably get your funds this week like others who aren't on SS already are.

Here's a fairly clear write up that matches other info I've found so far...
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/when-are-stimulus-checks-being-sent-out-how-to-keep-tabs-on-yours-2020-04-10

Though 80 million Americans are expected to get their payments this week, others will be getting their checks later in the month and even further into the year. Here’s an estimated timetable, according to federal lawmakers, as of early April.

• The IRS plans to send the first wave of payments in the week starting April 13, according to an expected timeline from the House Ways and Means Committee.

The tax authority will transmit the payments via direct deposit, using the banking information it has on file for taxpayers’ 2018 or 2019 tax returns, the timetable said.

That first wave will include Social Security recipients who filed tax returns and included direct deposit information on their returns, according to the House Ways and Means’ estimated timeline.

• The second wave will go to Social Security recipients who did not file 2018 or 2019 returns and receive their benefits through direct deposit.

• In early May, the IRS will start mailing paper checks to households, at a rate of 5 million per week. The paper checks will first go to the households with the lowest adjusted gross incomes, and continue upwards.

It could take up to 20 weeks to mail out all those checks, according to the House Ways and Means’ timetable.

The process could be delayed for several days because President Donald Trump wants his signature to appear on those paper checks, according to a Washington Post report. The Treasury Department told the Washington Post there wouldn’t be any delay as a result of adding Trump’s signature.

The IRS FAQs has some good info too...
https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/economic-impact-payment-information-center#paymentnot

I am not required to file a tax return, can I still use Get My Payment to check my payment status?

Depending on your specific circumstances, it may not be possible for you to access Get My Payment if you usually do not file a tax return. If your identity cannot be verified when answering the required security questions, you will not be able to use Get My Payment.
I receive a Form SSA-1099 or RRB-1099 and file a tax return. Can I use Get My Payment to check my payment status?

Yes, you will be able to use Get My Payment to check the status of your payment after you verify your identity by answering the required security questions.
I receive a Form SSA-1099 or RRB-1099 and do not file a tax return because I don’t meet the income requirement to file. Can I use Get My Payment to provide my bank information to receive my EIP by direct deposit?

You will not be able to use Get My Payment to provide your bank account information because you did not file tax returns for 2018 or 2019. The IRS will use the information on the Form SSA-1099 or Form RRB-1099 to generate your payment. You will receive your payment as a direct deposit or by mail, just as you would normally receive your benefits

[LenaBaby61]

32. 6 friends checked things out, and all they got was this message:

"According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time."

ALL of them qualify for the stimulus checks, because they all filed their income taxes for both years.

One friend didn't file his 2018 Income Taxes because he felt that getting back $1.00 Federal returns wasn't worth filing it, but he did file his 2019 income taxes a few weeks ago electronically (He told me that he will be receiving a whopping $3 this year in federal returns).

Several people I know got their stimulus deposits (Although pending at the time) on Friday, and now a majority of them haven't gotten anything. No word, no nothing. Something tells me that this is going to be a shit storm for many who are entitled to the stimulus money.