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elleng

(136,043 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:47 AM Apr 2018

Why You Should Get the New Shingles Vaccine

'I love my local YMCA for many reasons beyond my daily swim. Top of the list: the friendships and conversations in the locker room that are frequent sources of valuable information, connections and motivation. For example, I recently overheard a discussion about Y members and friends of members who had experienced devastating attacks of shingles, including one woman who nearly lost an eye and another who was left with unrelenting nerve pain.

That was the push I needed to end my procrastination about getting the new shingles vaccine, Shingrix, which was approved by the Food and Drug Administration last October after studies involving 16,600 people showed it to be far more effective at preventing this disease than the first shingles vaccine, Zostavax, which I had had a decade earlier. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people 50 and older, including those previously immunized with Zostavax, should now get the Shingrix vaccine.

The process was surprisingly simple and less costly than I had anticipated (list price is $280 for the two-part shot without insurance). All I needed was a prescription from my doctor. I took it to my local pharmacy, where a staff pharmacist administered the vaccine. I’ll get the second part the same way in May. My Medicare Part D insurance covered it with a $40 co-pay for each part. (The cost may be higher if the vaccine is administered in a doctor’s office, so check first.)

Many millions of Americans, especially those older than 40, are susceptible to an eventual attack of shingles, caused by the very same virus that causes chickenpox. Once this virus, varicella zoster, infects a person, it lies dormant for decades in nerve roots, ready to pounce when the immune system is weakened, say, by stress, medication, trauma or disease. One-third of Americans eventually get shingles, but the risk rises with age, and by age 85 half of adults will have had at least one outbreak of shingles.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/well/why-you-should-get-the-new-shingles-vaccine.html?

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Why You Should Get the New Shingles Vaccine (Original Post) elleng Apr 2018 OP
Thanks for the info! I didn't know there was a new vaccine. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #1
You're welcome. I'd heard about it some time ago, elleng Apr 2018 #2
I'll ask my GP about it next time too! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #3
That's neat! elleng Apr 2018 #5
He must be a great doctor! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #7
He's very nice, I like him a lot, elleng Apr 2018 #9
I had a friend that got shingles in his 40s on his face sdfernando Apr 2018 #4
AWFUL for your friend! elleng Apr 2018 #6
Yeah it was so terrible.... sdfernando Apr 2018 #8
Many insurance plans won't cover until 60. CousinIT Apr 2018 #10
Thanks so much for this info!!! Talitha Apr 2018 #11
You're welcome. elleng Apr 2018 #12
If you got that shot a few years ago, it was the old one. The new one just came out. Nay Apr 2018 #29
K&R fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #13
I got my first shot of..... Little Star Apr 2018 #14
I got mine yesterday and my arm hurts like hell, does yours? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #18
I was warned that it probably would but.... Little Star Apr 2018 #19
Yeah, mine is way worse but it will go away in a few days. Well worth it. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #20
Just got shot one yesterday and my arm hurts like a MOTHERFARKER! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #15
'Thanks,' I guess. elleng Apr 2018 #16
I think it is individual thing, if they hit the wrong spot. I will ask others here if they had this Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #17
My doctors say that a shot that hurts radical noodle Apr 2018 #21
You're absolutely correct, noodle! elleng Apr 2018 #22
I will need to get this new shot soon. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2018 #23
Just touching base... Talitha Apr 2018 #24
You're welcome, Talitha, and thanks for the info. elleng Apr 2018 #25
Thanks for the news. procon Apr 2018 #26
Amen. I am one of those truly special people, one of the .001% who gets multiple bouts of catbyte Apr 2018 #27
Oh my GOODNESS! elleng Apr 2018 #30
I had shingles when I was 36 years-old and sixteen weeks post-partum. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #28
Got my recommended Shingrix booster shot today Talitha Jul 2018 #31
Glad you got it, and it was easier. elleng Jul 2018 #32
I have Kaiser shanti Jul 2018 #34
Just got my first shot of Shingrix shanti Jul 2018 #33
I finally got the booster/2d shot today, EDIT elleng Feb 2019 #35

elleng

(136,043 posts)
2. You're welcome. I'd heard about it some time ago,
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:16 PM
Apr 2018

and then forgot about it, as had the 'old' one some years ago. Guess I'll ask my GP about it (when I see him, which is not often.)

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,887 posts)
3. I'll ask my GP about it next time too!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:19 PM
Apr 2018

Bonus: SHE HATES TRUMP TOO! We spend more time discussing politics than we do my medical issues, LOL!

elleng

(136,043 posts)
5. That's neat!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:28 PM
Apr 2018

As I've moved from where my doc's office is located, I see him seldom; only when prescriptions demand a visit. AND last times I've seen him, we discussed his divorce (sad) and my home; tried to cheer him up by inviting him to visit, even tho it's about 120 miles from him!

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,887 posts)
7. He must be a great doctor!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

That's one of the reasons I never want to move out of the area I live in - all my doctors are close by!

sdfernando

(5,379 posts)
4. I had a friend that got shingles in his 40s on his face
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:24 PM
Apr 2018

and it also got into his eye. I couldn't imagine what that was like. Open sores INSIDE his eyelid, every blink or movement of the eye produced excruciating pain. Didn't sleep well, imagine every time you go into REM, PAIN and you wake up.

I myself had Chicken Pox twice (I know, but it does happen), but that doesn't do anything to mitigate getting shingles.

Please, everyone, get the vaccine!

elleng

(136,043 posts)
6. AWFUL for your friend!
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:29 PM
Apr 2018

Dad had it, not as awful as your friend's, so kind of encouraged me to get the 'old' vaccine.

CousinIT

(10,186 posts)
10. Many insurance plans won't cover until 60.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:23 PM
Apr 2018

I had a Rx for it but learned it wasn't covered until 60.

I may get another Rx & just pony up cost or wait a few years.

Same with DexaScan. Goddamned insurance won't cover until 60-65 or so - DECADES AFTER bone loss has started (starts around 35-40) and AFTER anything can be done to mitigate it.

Dumbasses.

Talitha

(7,447 posts)
11. Thanks so much for this info!!!
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:40 PM
Apr 2018

I got the shingles shot several years ago.
Not sure which one it was though, so thanks for the heads-up!!!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
29. If you got that shot a few years ago, it was the old one. The new one just came out.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:56 AM
Apr 2018

Some people get a worse reaction to the new vaccine -- a friend just got it and felt pretty bad for a couple of days (flu-like symptoms). I'll be checking with my doc about me taking the new one. I had the old one, got a mild case of the shingles 3 yrs later, so I'm sure he'll recommend I get the new one.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
14. I got my first shot of.....
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:20 AM
Apr 2018

Shingrix last week and have to go back in June for the second.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/shingrix/index.html


One of my daughters had shingles when she was younger and still living at home. It was awful, so painful, it was heartbreaking to watch her suffer. Thank heavens she came through it ok. Shingles is nothing to fool around with.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
18. I got mine yesterday and my arm hurts like hell, does yours?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:27 AM
Apr 2018

I think it is less the medicine and more who is doing the shot if they hit the wrong spot, nerve or something.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
19. I was warned that it probably would but....
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:44 AM
Apr 2018

it only hurt a very little when I lifted my arm and that was only for a brief period of time.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
15. Just got shot one yesterday and my arm hurts like a MOTHERFARKER!
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:21 AM
Apr 2018

rarely happens like this but when it does

wow

Eliot Rosewater

(32,536 posts)
17. I think it is individual thing, if they hit the wrong spot. I will ask others here if they had this
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:27 AM
Apr 2018

happen.

Still well worth it, my mom had shingles and she said it was by far the worst experience of her life.

Assume he hit a nerve? This happened once before with a flu shot so I doubt it is related to the medicine itself.

radical noodle

(8,579 posts)
21. My doctors say that a shot that hurts
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:13 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Wed Apr 11, 2018, 03:01 PM - Edit history (1)

will be x100 if you get the shingles. He also says that there's not a 100% chance that you'll ever have shingles, but if you do there's a 100% chance you'll be miserable. I watched my 40-year-old daughter suffer with it about 3 years ago and she still has pain from it. Don't worry about a few days of arm pain elleng.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,727 posts)
23. I will need to get this new shot soon.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 05:04 AM
Apr 2018

I do hope they reformulate it so it's not so painful.

I got the old shingles shot about five years ago now, so I can probably hold out a bit.

For what it's worth, my younger son had an outbreak of shingles at age 20.

Talitha

(7,447 posts)
24. Just touching base...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:14 PM
Apr 2018

I'd received the original type of shot about 5 years ago and got this newer one after reading about it here. In the office, she didn't tell me there would be a follow-up shot needed... I found that out while reading the hand-out, and had to call them back to make the appointment. Looks like they dropped the ball on that point.

It was a weird shot. She didn't stick me in the upper arm muscle, but went a bit higher up - just below the shoulder cap bone (sorry, I don't know the name of it). Immediately, there was a burning sensation all the way down my arm, VERY reminiscent of a Wasp sting but it went away very fast... before I left the cubicle, in fact.

The ache from the shot stayed for about 3 days but wasn't too bad - it felt like an over-worked muscle. And I got very fatigued for the rest of the day, which was really strange. But that was on the reaction sheet, so no worries there.

I wonder why my health care provider's data base didn't kick out some sort of notice to all Patients who'd received the older type shot? They really should notify us to get the newer type. If not for reading about it here, I wouldn't have a clue - so thanks again for the heads-up, elleng!!

elleng

(136,043 posts)
25. You're welcome, Talitha, and thanks for the info.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:37 PM
Apr 2018

I still haven't discussed the matter with my GP; will likely do so if/when I try for a refill of something and he/his group says they have to see me.

Been thinking I might ask if I could get the OLD one instead, as a follow up shot will be a 'pain,' only because I've moved so am over 100 miles away from their office now.

BUT glad you wrote, as a prod.

procon

(15,805 posts)
26. Thanks for the news.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:18 PM
Apr 2018

I got the Zostavax vac after my 2nd bout with shingles that left me in agony for 6 months with that lingering nerve pain that persisted long after the blistering healed up. I urged everyone I knew to get that vaccine to avoid what I went through, and I haven't had another attack since. I didn't know about Shingrix, but I will certainly ask my doctor if I can get it.

catbyte

(35,765 posts)
27. Amen. I am one of those truly special people, one of the .001% who gets multiple bouts of
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:56 PM
Apr 2018

shingles. I've had about 12 outbreaks since 1996, and every one of them is excruciating. They usually erupt down my right sciatic nerve, which has led to permanent nerve damage and subsequent unrelenting nerve pain 24/7. My doctors can't explain it, my immune system functions normally, but multiple bouts run on my dad's side of my family. My grandma, dad, aunt, and 2 first cousins have all had more than one bout, but I'm the big winner. Why couldn't it have been the Powerball?

So please, anybody over 40, get the vaccine. I spoke to my doctor about it but he said it probably wouldn't do me any good. He says the vaccine tricks your body into thinking it already had shingles, but my body doesn't seem to care about that. I got my first bout at 40; my most recent bout came on about 2 weeks ago. I'm on daily antivirals and, of course, pain meds, which helps somewhat, but not completely.

Please. Do yourself a BIG, HUGE, HUMONGOUS favor--get the vaccine.

Talitha

(7,447 posts)
31. Got my recommended Shingrix booster shot today
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jul 2018

And it did NOT hurt and burn like the first one did!! Nice surprise, since the first one in April felt like a Wasp sting. TBH, I wonder if the first shot was was too close to a nerve or something. It was just below the shoulder bone, which was a bit odd. This one was in the 'meaty' part of the upper arm, where you'd customarily expect a shot to be given.

Who knows, maybe the first one burns and the second one doesn't? In any case, I just thought I'd pop back in here and let everyone know that the follow-up shot was a piece of cake.
(m-m-m-m, cake!!!)

BTW... both shots were paid for by Medicare.

elleng

(136,043 posts)
32. Glad you got it, and it was easier.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jul 2018

and glad paid by medicare!

My doc 'ordered' pharmacy to obtain the stuff, so I'm waiting to hear from them, 'couple months!' Surprised it takes so long!

A friend is now enduring his SECOND bout of shingles.

shanti

(21,716 posts)
34. I have Kaiser
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:29 PM
Jul 2018

and was told there was only a limited supply, so it's probably universal. Sorry to hear about your friend . My oldest son got it at 36, on a Hawaiian vacation, of all places. He was miserable.

shanti

(21,716 posts)
33. Just got my first shot of Shingrix
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:26 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:57 AM - Edit history (1)

It's been about 3 hours. The injection HURT going in! Nurse said some think it feels like a Tetanus shot, which is painful. My first shingles vacc hurt too, so I was expecting it. So, I'm expecting pain for 2-3 days. I'm a big girl, and can handle it. The thought of getting shingles scares the shite out of me, so I had to do it! There are other possible side effects too, but I hope I don't get them.

I have Kaiser, and the vacc is free, yay!

On Edit: Yes, 2-3 days and no more pain. No side effects either.

elleng

(136,043 posts)
35. I finally got the booster/2d shot today, EDIT
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

after the first in August; awaiting 'effects!'



NO 'effects,' but for slight discomfort trying to sleep on left arm (which I usually do.) Should be over tonight.

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