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BootinUp

(49,113 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 12:58 AM Feb 2024

"Mr. Trump would not even need to formally quit the alliance to render it pointless."

Foreseeing the possibility of an American retreat from the world if Mr. Trump returns to office, Congress recently passed legislation barring any president from withdrawing from the NATO treaty without Senate approval. But Mr. Trump would not even need to formally quit the alliance to render it pointless.

And if the United States could not be counted on to come to the aid of partners in Europe, where it has the strongest historic ties, then other countries with mutual security agreements with Washington like Japan, the Philippines, Thailand, Australia, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica and Panama could hardly be sure of American help, either.

Peter D. Feaver, a Duke University professor and former national security aide to Mr. Bush and President Bill Clinton, said Mr. Trump could reduce American troops in Europe to a level that “would render any military defense plans hollow” and “regularly poor-mouth the U.S. commitment” in a way that would convince Mr. Putin that he had free rein.

“Just doing those two things could wound and perhaps kill NATO,” Mr. Feaver said. “And few allies or partners in other parts of the world would trust any U.S. commitment after seeing us break NATO.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/11/us/politics/trump-nato.html?unlocked_article_code=1.U00.V9UK._Ta7pwb0mxJH&smid=url-share
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"Mr. Trump would not even need to formally quit the alliance to render it pointless." (Original Post) BootinUp Feb 2024 OP
Plus, imagine if Russia did invade a NATO country, I doubt that no_hypocrisy Feb 2024 #1
Putin's dream is to break up the US, Europe and NATO. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #2
Congress has prohibited TFG from removing the US from NATO LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #3
This was mentioned in OP and BootinUp Feb 2024 #4

no_hypocrisy

(48,936 posts)
1. Plus, imagine if Russia did invade a NATO country, I doubt that
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 05:02 AM
Feb 2024

a republican-led House would declare war. Even though Presidents have inserted the US into war without Congress, with a Trump in the WH and a republican House, does it matter if we're still in NATO?

Irish_Dem

(58,291 posts)
2. Putin's dream is to break up the US, Europe and NATO.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 07:29 AM
Feb 2024

He has been very successful working on this goal.

BootinUp

(49,113 posts)
4. This was mentioned in OP and
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Feb 2024

The article suggests it would be ineffective at stopping a breakdown of the security apparatus. I am not saying it’s right but it could be imho.

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