I noticed something interesting when President Biden was

[AndyS]

asked about gun control. He said he "the idea … we still allow semi-automatic weapons to be purchased is sick. It’s just sick. It has no, no social redeeming value. Zero. None. Not a single, solitary rationale for it except profit for the gun manufacturers.”

He still uses the term "assault weapon" but the subtle shift in language gives me hope that we will get past the silly assed idea that we can somehow define 'assault weapon' in a way that gunners can't find a workaround.

We must stop fucking around trying to pacify the gunners and just get rid of semi automatic weapons of all kinds that accept removeable magazines. Long guns, short guns restrict them ALL.

Collect all the gunner tears, bring to a boil, steep a teabag for 3-4 minutes and enjoy the peace and quiet of a country without a mass shooting twice a day.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Oh gawd, YES! n/t

[Tetrachloride]

2. Physics (ballistics, mechanical design, mechanical speed, materials composition)

are terms that are more solid in courts, in my view.

[HeartachesNhangovers]

3. He should issue an executive order banning all federal agencies

from using semi-automatic weapons. May as well require them to destroy all those weapons. He could do that tomorrow.

When the public sees that federal agents have no use for semi-automatics, that may dampen public demand.

[Straw Man]

5. So ...

He should issue an executive order banning all federal agencies

from using semi-automatic weapons. May as well require them to destroy all those weapons. He could do that tomorrow.

When the public sees that federal agents have no use for semi-automatics, that may dampen public demand.

... the FBI is going to go back to six-shot Smith & Wesson revolvers? And bolt-action rifles? And pump shotguns? Completely ceding weapons superiority to their adversaries, the Bad Guys? Expect the number of agents killed in action to skyrocket. Then see what effect that has on public demand.

How about the military? Should they give up their semi-automatic weapons too? And of course their full-auto weapons. Could they at least have Gatling guns?

[HeartachesNhangovers]

6. I didn't mention the US military - they aren't a federal agency.

I was thinking about the thousands of armed postal criminal investigators, IRS criminal investigators, etc, etc. Armed agencies that rarely use their weapons in the course of duty. Yes, they could get by with revolvers, bolt-action rifles and shotguns since they're basically for show, AND they can always request local law enforcement backup for the few times they actually deal with violent criminals.

When USPS and IRS agents carry modern duty pistols with 17+ round capacity, it's a losing argument that non-government employees shouldn't be allowed the same.

[Straw Man]

7. The FBI are the elephant in the room.

Honestly, no one gives a crap about what postal inspectors carry. I doubt most people even know. But when you say "armed agencies that rarely use their weapons," you're basically undercutting your whole premise. "It's a perfectly sufficient weapon as long as you don't plan to use it" isn't exactly a hot selling point.

[oneshooter]

8. No military in the world issues semi auto weapons, except for handguns.

[Straw Man]

9. Correction noted.

I should have said full-auto weapons.

[wendyb-NC]

4. Absolutely

Thanks for posting about this.

[SYFROYH]

10. It was more likely a poorly stated sentence.

There is no chance of anyone proposing a bill that bans all semi-auto weapons.

[ancianita]

11. Man, I gotta get over here more often. I love these threads.

Thanks.