The good guy with a gun saying is just leading us into more madness.

[Eko]

Might as well make cannons or tanks legal, their ammunition legal and as easy to get as bullets and then talk about a good guy with a cannon or a good guy with a tank. Its insanity and will lead us to death and destruction as anyone with critical thinking can plainly see.

[AkFemDem]

1. Amazingly

Every time I see a “good guy with a gun” story, they’re stopping a bad guy with an assault rifle with a small handgun. One could make the argument that this is proof no one needs an AR for self defense, and these examples prove it.

Banning assault style rifles is the obvious first step.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

22. Self-defense

One could make the argument that this is proof no one needs an AR for self defense...

IMO self-defense is an extremely detailed and individual area of effort. A really complete assessment of one's overall situation is the place to start. My standard for myself in what I would be comfortable with in training would exceed the time and money I have to devote to it.

Many folks, especially those with a larger property and multiple structures, in suburban to rural areas may have regular use for a "ranch rifle" or a shotgun. A good example of ranch rifle is a Ruger mini-14 which looks different than an AR but functions pretty much identically. I'm inferring a bit here but those folks may not have the time to practice with 2 different guns and may not be able to afford 2 different sets of ammo and such. Also, some folks enjoy shooting as a hobby and an AR is like a computer that you can somewhat customize them for your particular circumstances and uses.

Many states now have no license requirement to carry in public but most (I think) require you to carry concealed. Concealing an AR is probably impossible. I don't like open carry especially with a rifle. Those folks are mostly just trying to be provocative.

[yagotme]

23. Perhaps the "good guy" is carrying legally, concealed,

and not willing/allowed to carry a rifle for defensive purposes. According to your logic, all our troops need are 9mm pistols, as the "AR-15" isn't a good defensive firearm. Curiously, what exactly is your definition of an "assault style rifle"? We need to know the exact details before any can be banned.

[Eko]

3. Ok, fixed my post if you want to be pedantic.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

4. How am I being pedantic by pointing out your incorrect info?

[Eko]

5. Can you get a tank or a cannon

and the ammunition as easily as an AR style rifle and 5.56 ammunition even if money is not a problem? No. So you understand what the post meant you just wanted to show the exception to the rule, like there is not always an exception to every rule.

[thatdemguy]

6. actually you can

You can buy a cannon and a tank with not even having to show id. That is if the cannon is muzzle loading and the tank does not have an active gun.

[Eko]

8. and the ammunition?

[thatdemguy]

10. If its a muzzle loader

Then you walk into a store and buy black powder and use nails or ball bearings for bullets. Or just buy the mold to cast your own from lead. Heck you can buy and make your own black powder from stuff sold at walmart.

The ammo for a tank cannon if just a heavy bullet you can buy as well, they would just be very expensive. They really just have a lot of powder and big heavy bullet. Same requirements as a 22lr bullet, show your id to prove your old enough and pay for it.

[Eko]

11. You dont need a NFA for a tank that has an operational main gun?

And if so wouldn't that make it different from getting an AR style rifle?

[Eko]

12. And, are you really trying to bring something like this into the discussion?

I guess I have to make it clear I mean a modern cannon and a modern tank that work and have ammunition. Not sure why anyone would think I was comparing a defunct 17th and 18th century cannon or a tank without a workable main gun but I guess with some people you have to be crystal clear since they cant understand the comparison in the post. And not this tank.

[ManiacJoe]

13. Cannon ammo is easy.

It is a steel ball and separate gun power. All is legal.

The tank ammo will be a problem for the general public since it is all highly restricted. Need the proper licenses and need the deep pockets for the purchases.

[Eko]

14. So,

Getting ammo for a Tank requires much more than getting it for an AR15, as you said. And for a modern cannon same thing. Thanks.

[ManiacJoe]

16. It is all about legitimate purposes for civilians.

Small arms ammo has legit purposes for civilians, be it hunting or target shooting or self defense.

Bombs, explosive warheads, and similar "tank" rounds do not have any legit purposes for general civilians due to their indiscriminate nature.

[Eko]

18. It may be legit for you, but its not legit for them.

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/6e1c7c5/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5586x3628+0+0/resize/840x546!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F7e%2Fb8%2F3cf0a78743da8ed910023d5f9fd5%2F964102-na-0526-school-shooting13-wjs.jpg




But, whatever, got to kill them varmints or protect yourself from something that has a chance of happening to you as about the same as winning the mega millions!!

[ManiacJoe]

20. Obviously "legitimate" is not the word you are looking for.

Criminal use is never part of the definition of legitimate, but you already knew that.

[Eko]

15. Might as well tell me you can buy an Avro Lancaster

and no bombs while I am talking about people everywhere getting fully functional saw's with all the ammo with no permits required.

[ManiacJoe]

17. Lots of people own WW2 aircraft.

Perfectly legal without the guns.
Fighter planes are very popular with racing.
Lots of folks love their MIG 19s and other "vintage" jets. (No guns allowed.)

If you can afford to purchase and maintain a WW2 bomber, more power to you. Obviously, you cannot have the bombs or machine guns.

In general, no civilians are getting SAWs. Machine guns are heavily restricted at the federal level and in many states. There is nothing special about their ammo. Military spec rifle ammo is great for the gun range and target shooting, and it used to be quite cheap to purchase.

[Eko]

19. You are tone deaf.

[ManiacJoe]

21. No, you are just asking the wrong questions for your purpose.

Apparently, the face value of the asked questions was not your intention.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

7. Chill out man, you're reading far too much into my post.

Here, to show no ill will towards your thread, I'll delete my post.

[Eko]

9. You dont need to delete anything.

I have no ill will towards you either.