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davepc

(3,936 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:50 AM Nov 2016

Local gun-carrying restrictions may be wiped out under Trump, advocates say

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/gun-control-donald-trump-congress-concealed-carry-law

Advocates say they expect Congress to finally pass a sweeping gun rights law that could dismantle local gun-carrying restrictions in states including New York, New Jersey, Maryland, California and Hawaii.

These changes could come soon. If Congress passes a federal right-to-carry law, it’s “certainly possible” that within a year or two, New York tourists might be able to carry a concealed weapon as they tour the city, said Robert Spitzer, a gun politics expert at SUNY Cortland.

Trump, who himself has a permit to carry a concealed firearm, has already endorsed a new reciprocity law as part of his gun rights platform. Concealed-carry permits from one state “should be valid in all 50 states”, his platform reads, calling the proposal “common sense”.

Gun control groups call national reciprocity “a threat to public safety” and have pledged to fight the legislation, as they have done before. But it’s not clear how successful they may be against a united government, with Republican majorities in the House and Senate and a Republican president.
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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
3. hey buster
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:37 PM
Nov 2016
If Congress passes a federal right-to-carry law, it’s “certainly possible” that within a year or two, New York tourists might be able to carry a concealed weapon as they tour the city
Gun control groups call national reciprocity “a threat to public safety” and have pledged to fight the legislation, as they have done before. But it’s not clear how successful they may be against a united government, with Republican majorities in the House and Senate and a Republican president.


You never hoid of da filibuster?

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
8. I remember, but do you remember NRA A/B rated Democrats.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 11:27 AM
Nov 2016


There are many Democrats who can't vote against national carry.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
11. There are ten democrat Senators up for reelection in 2018
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:13 PM
Nov 2016

who are from states that Trump won. They'll have to be careful what they choose to filibuster.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
4. Such a proposal isn't too out of land with, IMO, a proper view of the Second Amendment...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:53 PM
Nov 2016

The Second recognizes a right to keep and bear arms that no state shall deny as protected by the Fourteenth. Reciprocity would thereby follow. The question is the method of carry: Concealed or Open. Of course, no state can constitutionally deny both, and any state can recognize both methods of carry. But the states can recognize one method while denying the other as the Second does not speak to the methodology. It would appear, however, that any proposed legislation is limited to concealed-carry. There may be a question as to training/certification in the various states and how reciprocity would deal with this.

spin

(17,493 posts)
7. A national reciprocity law might set minimum standards for training. ...
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 07:45 PM
Nov 2016

In my opinion that would be logical and an excellent idea. Unfortunately over time those training standards could be raised to a level where the expense and time in involved might discourage people who wish to get a license to carry.

I strongly support concealed carry and feel reasonable training to obtain a license is a damn good idea. People need to understand the laws in their state concerning what is considered to be reasonable self defense and also should have to show some proficiency with handling a firearm.

I have had a Florida concealed weapons permit for at least 20 years and while I would like to see some improvements to the training requirements in Florida (more proof that you can hit a target at a reasonable distance on a pistol range) I think the law has worked out well with a few exceptions.

I favor keeping the laws about carrying a firearm in public at the state level. Otherwise over time many people who may have been able to successfully defend themselves from an attacker who intends to kill them or put them in a hospital for an extended period may find the expense of a license and the time required to get one is too beyond their means.

SQUEE

(1,320 posts)
5. I still think states know what works best for their voters..
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:11 PM
Nov 2016

AND the voters know what they want from their politicians.

I do expect NFA changes are in the works though.

Suppressors should be cash and carry and silly arbitrary length limits need to be done away with.

The party needs to come to grips with the fact that gun rights are non partisan and tp forever take this issue away from the Republicans and Libertarians.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
6. Various instances where local law conflicts with federal law - and state laws win.
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 09:27 AM
Nov 2016

Not holding my breath for this one. (especially in NY/NYC)

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
9. It would be nice to see all Federal gun import bans lifted.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 11:33 AM
Nov 2016

Lifting Federal import bans is a safety neutral policy.

Maybe taking suppressors and short-barrels off of NFA would also be nice.


Straw Man

(6,771 posts)
10. A total non-event.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 06:04 PM
Nov 2016
If Congress passes a federal right-to-carry law, it’s “certainly possible” that within a year or two, New York tourists might be able to carry a concealed weapon as they tour the city, said Robert Spitzer, a gun politics expert at SUNY Cortland.

Does that mean that I, as holder of a New York State pistol permit, would also be able to carry in New York City? It's about time.

Why do New Yorkers get so high-and-mighty about other states' licensing procedures? New York State currently has no training requirement for CCW. Texans have to pass a proficiency test for theirs.
 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
12. National carry reciprocity is a must.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:54 AM
Nov 2016

Too many states have decided to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.

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