Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumThe backlash is real...It's being felt in Missouri..
Ignorant people on TV speaking stupidly about things they know nothing about, almost totally enabled by a rich 1%'er Bloomberg's money has consequences. It causes people to call their state reps, and demand certain things...And the legislature listened.
http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/missouri-senate-house-override-veto-of-constitutional-carry
The bill also called the Constitutional Carry states anyone who can legally purchase a weapon, can also carry it concealed without a permit.
The Senate voted 24-6 to override the veto on this bill around seven o'clock. The House took it up for a vote shortly after, and in about an hour voted to override it with a vote of 112 to 41.
Time to update this map with some more green..It clearly shows the voter backlash that has occurred, and is occurring. EVery push for gun control, ends up relaxing laws all over the nation.. For every ONE state that tightens, 10 loosen. The message is loud and clear, and being ignored. Seems like the harder they push, the more they lose, and we gain.
But hey, its an election year!! Not a problem right??
ileus
(15,396 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)and where the Democratic Party stands with state legislatures, this is it.
sarisataka
(21,002 posts)1986 16 No- issue, 25- May issue, 8- Shall issue, 1 Unrestricted carry
2016 0 No issue, 8- May issue, 32- Shall issue, 10 Unrestricted carry (1 pending)
but tipping point... or something
DonP
(6,185 posts)They can't deny the basic facts or the obvious trend. And with such simplistic attitudes, those bright colors attract them like moths to a Coleman lantern.
All they can do is flit around the edges of reality and focus on their "fewer gun owners" commandment
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)results in more and more gun rights victories, but "tipping point", or something.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Now that's my kind of "green initiative".
Next stops, New Hampshire and Georgia.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)What Controllers don't seem to grasp is that folks all across the country are disgusted by the Couric fraud, and the BS going on in CA and MA.
For every ONE state that tightens, 10 loosen. The message is loud and clear, and being ignored. Seems like the harder they push, the more they lose, and we gain.
True this, but a hollow victory IMO considering the political cost attached. Further, why should we be surprised when citizens doubt us w/regard to the issue of global warming when we tell stupid, obvious lies about simple technology like semi-auto firearms?
Paladin
(28,774 posts)Extra points for honest answers.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,578 posts)Regardless of her position on gun regulation, trump scares my whole family. We think he wants to be a king, a dictator. To be honest, HRC is my second choice after Sanders. I also anticipate few if any federal changes during her administration regarding firearms. It will be a great milestone for women and one that sets a tone for future generations.
sarisataka
(21,002 posts)In this group of vote for Mrs. Clinton? We support Democrats.
Oh, I think I may understand. You have confused us with a different gun group that endorses Republicans and places issue over party. You can find them here -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262
DonP
(6,185 posts)Hypocrisy?
You've clearly shown that the host of that "other" safe haven group, as well as some of the other Grabnutz, are perfectly willing to throw Dems under the bus in favor of more gun grabbing GOP candidates.
But I'm betting they will just quietly go away and not point it out or demand embarrassing corrections from them.
sarisataka
(21,002 posts)For 2 Orwellian reasons -
First- groupthink is mandatory amongst gun control proponents and Purity is enforced with with enthusiasm even going so far as to ban people for posting historical fact
Second - doublethink is strong among gun control proponents. There are many instances of holding to two mutually contradictory points but seeing absolutely no conflict between them.
In this case the implied accusation of gun owners are those who will support Republicans due to their position on a single issue, while at the same time supporting those in their own camp who openly support Republican candidates over Democrats.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Wonder why???
hack89
(39,179 posts)Why wouldn't we vote for her?
Is it really that hard to accept that many Dems are gun owners?
This is Democratic Underground. Not Discussionist.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)They are the ones that openly supported two Republicans over Democrats.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Our control minded brethren are going to "boycott" all those constitutional carry states ... and all those other shall issue states "which will allow no-questions-asked CCW".
That is gonna really restrict their vacation and college plans to what, 7 or 8 states now?
Then, come November, they'll scratch their heads and wonder how we could have possibly lost so many governor's seats?