Jenna Fischer Speaks Out Against Gun Violence: "We Need to Erase This Stigma of Asking Questions"

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When Jenna Fischer was living in London last year with her family for six months while shooting the show You, Me and the Apocalypse, news back home in America seemed grim and continued to be dominated by tragic mass shootings. Her colleagues, Fischer remembered, would quiz her on what was really going on over there.

"They would ask me, ‘Is it really true, can you just go into a store and buy a gun? Why? Why do you allow this? Aren’t you scared?’ I explained the Second Amendment and tried to answer their questions, but as the reports increased, I became more unnerved by what felt like an epidemic of violence in our country that didn't seem to affect other countries that have been exposed to the same movies and video games," she explained before attending the Brady Center's annual Bear Awards on May 4 at the Four Seasons Los Angeles. "I started to investigate why that may be."

Fischer's research led her to the Brady Center. "They are a very moderate, responsible and comprehensive organization, and I decided that was the group I wanted to work with," said the actress, dressed in a cap-sleeve dress by Rubin Singer. So she joined a number of actors and industry types at the organization's event, which honored Bill Clinton, Oscar-winning producer Dede Gardner and philanthropist David Bohnett.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jenna-fischer-speaks-gun-violence-891270

[theatre goon]

1. The most relevant part of the quoted material...?

"...dressed in a cap-sleeve dress by Rubin Singer."

The rest of it? Meh.

I just never got this idea that because someone is a good actor, as Jenna Fischer assuredly is, that their other opinions are somehow relevant, even when it is uninformed. I would be more than happy to see her cast in any romantic comedy that I was involved in, but her political views are her own and of no particular interest.

[chelsea0011]

6. So, she should just shut up and go home?

Actor or not she gets an opinion like anyone else

[Straw Man]

14. No, but her opinion ...

... is worth no more than anyone else's. It's not newsworthy, but since she's a celebrity, her opinion will get promulgated by the media. IMO, that's bullshit. I'm not in favor of non-political public figures using the limelight to push their beliefs.

[theatre goon]

19. Not what I said.

But thanks for trying to put words into my mouth. Have you got a reply to anything I actually said, or are you going to just stick with responding to things I didn't say?

[JonathanRackham]

2. Hollywood does a lot to promote gun misuse.

[flamin lib]

11. Most people can discern fantasy. Apparently not all tho . . .nt

[Straw Man]

15. Here's what I told you ...

Most people can discern fantasy. Apparently not all tho . . .

... the last time you advanced that particular canard:

"There is now consensus that exposure to media violence is linked to actual violent behavior — a link found by many scholars to be on par with the correlation of exposure to secondhand smoke and the risk of lung cancer. In a meta-analysis of 217 studies published between 1957 and 1990, the psychologists George Comstock and Haejung Paik found that the short-term effect of exposure to media violence on actual physical violence against a person was moderate to large in strength."

--http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/opinion/sunday/does-media-violence-lead-to-the-real-thing.html

You ignored me then. Would you care to address it now?

[friendly_iconoclast]

17. That one tends to scarper when asked awkward questions:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=192266

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=192139

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=192268

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=192272

[flamin lib]

21. Sorry to take so long to respond, life happens.

When you or anyone else here accepts the myriad of studies that show more guns means more violence I'll give your studies blaming movies and video games the consideration they deserve.

[Straw Man]

22. Yes, it does.

When you or anyone else here accepts the myriad of studies that show more guns means more violence I'll give your studies blaming movies and video games the consideration they deserve.

I gave you a specific study. Refute it or let it stand. That's the way this works.

If you'd like to cite a specific study, I will do the same. Otherwise, you're just tap-dancing and deflecting.

[flamin lib]

26. Why should I bother re-posting any of the dozens of studies posted here just to have them

ignored and made light of? It's a waste of my time and yours. Facts never seem to get in the way of man-gun love.

See post 23 for evidence.

[Straw Man]

32. Because ...

Why should I bother re-posting any of the dozens of studies posted here just to have them

ignored and made light of? It's a waste of my time and yours.

"Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur." You could look it up.

[flamin lib]

33. Bliteus belua es! nt

[Straw Man]

34. Is this meant to be ...

... an argumentum ad hominem, or just a gratuitous insult?

Whatever it is, it isn't a substantive response.

[flamin lib]

35. Not an insult, a simple characterization. As you never add anything of substance to a conversation

welcome to ignore.

[Straw Man]

36. That's rich.

Not an insult, a simple characterization. As you never add anything of substance to a conversation

welcome to ignore.

I post a study that you refuse to address. You refer to other studies, but decline to post them. Then you claim that I "never add anything of substance to a conversation."

The irony is rich, Grasshopper. Priceless.

[DonP]

37. That poster has reduced themseves to total irrelevance

They proudly increase their ignore list every few days to avoid embarrassing questions and facts, they have made a habit of ignoring any and all requests for any facts to back up their random assertions, claiming, "I already showed it" and ... their most recent posts have been reduced to the absurd and trite;

"If only (fill in the blank) had their own gun" (Which only gun grabbers seem to embrace)

And the equally stupid ... "What could possibly go wrong" every time a more liberal gun law (constitutional carry, carry in churches, campus carry, et. al.) is passed.

Then, when nothing happens, they skulk back to Bansalot for a while to be applauded by both regular posters and come back with the same ole tripe. Always winding up with the assertion that we're all wrong and they are morally, ethically and intellectually superior.

That's how these intellectual giants manage to ignore the results of the 2013 CDC study the President ordered but still claim the CDC can't do any gun related research because of the all powerful NRA.

Hell even Bansalot's latest version of a host has disappeared again. You know, the same one that our host finally banned for being a jerk and after he begged Skinner for his own group then posted gun cartoons?

Still waiting for that Georgia body count from the "Guns Everywhere" law they told us would leave blood in the streets .... again.

[beevul]

39. Maybe...

Hell even Bansalot's latest version of a host has disappeared again. You know, the same one that our host finally banned for being a jerk and after he begged Skinner for his own group then posted gun cartoons?

Maybe the power went out. I guess we'll know if a new poster named 'Mechanical Monk' starts posting anti-gun nonsense.

[DonP]

40. When he got banned from the Gungeon the wind kinda went out of his sails

Up here, he could at least lie to his hearts content about guns and gun owners and at least got some feedback (even though it infuriated him that he couldn't shame anyone).

Back in his safe space, they go for days and even a week at a time and nobody shows up.

But one of their little lost lambs has returned, after being shamed out for a while, so maybe it will get weird and funny again.

But probably they'll just get angry. They really just look forward to banning anyone that shows up, even people with a curious neutral stance.

[sarisataka]

45. It is good to see activity there,

In the pre tantrum days the Lost Bubba was responsible for a third of the posts in the group. Now that he has removed his self-imposed ban he should easily be able to account for 50 to 75% of the posts.

It will also help since the missing host has endorsed meta posting whining about Skinner, they have a whole new category to discuss.

[beevul]

46. What did I miss?

It will also help since the missing host has endorsed meta posting whining about Skinner, they have a whole new category to discuss.

What did I miss?

[sarisataka]

47. a prolific control poster

Apparently alerted on an emoji that a jury allowed to stand. (I agree it is in poor taste) He then went to ATA to complain but Skinner simply referred to the jury. Rather than leaving it at that he ran home to whine about it to his fellows.
A long-lost host came back to endorse the Meta whining and give the stamp of approval to it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210569

Apparently the host was alerted because somebody made an sop alert I suppose wondering if whining is considered advancing gun control. It seems to me anyone who would be labeled " One of our resident gun humping assholes " would already be aware whining is an integral part of gun control.

[beevul]

48. Wow, back and immediately warming up the alert button.

That poster doesn't have an ox to gore. No sir.

[beevul]

50. Looks like the power is back on...N/T

[DonP]

51. I'm sure his mere presence will singal a major turnaround in gun control fortunes

(Too bad I can t put a thingie in a title.)

No matter who hosts, they're still cheap, lazy hypocrites.

[friendly_iconoclast]

54. Factose intolerance is rampant among that lot:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12625502

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172135491

[Marengo]

52. Speaking of gun love, how many guns do you own again?

And why won't you answer this question?

[Eleanors38]

23. "more guns means more violence:" An unproven gun-ban slogan. nt

[Duckhunter935]

3. Moderate organization

[Eleanors38]

24. Brought to you by Reagan Republicans.

I thought complimentary/enabling rhetoric concerning the GOP was frowned on, here.

[ileus]

4. I bet this moderate group taught her guns kill people...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

5. When I talk with my friends from other countries, they don't ask about guns ...

... but they ask about the health system.

If there's anything that makes us look uncivilized, anything that "makes us scared", it's the medical treatment of people.

I have to answer a series of questions to buy a gun. That's nothing compared to the questions I have to answer to get a cut stitched.

[DonP]

7. I watched "You, Me and the Apocalypse", a lot of people were "shot", some by her

I wonder why her beliefs didn't stop her from taking the part, using guns on camera, or cashing her check from the producers?

That would have been a perfect place to make a principled stand.

Just seems odd that none of the many Hollywood gun control supporters ever get around to turning down a part with gun violence as part of the plot line?

I guess we all have to wait for the press release on; "Jenna Fischer (or any other actor) turns down their 15th part in a row to stand against gun violence".

[friendly_iconoclast]

18. A lot of "antigun" actors are really "antigun unless offered a paycheck for using guns onscreen", or

"antigun, except for the ones *they* or their bodyguards own"

Nothing new under the sun...

[Duckhunter935]

28. Yep, it is interesting

That they do not hold those principles very high.

[DonP]

31. They have "principles", as long as it doesn't cost them anything ...

... like a high paying part in the next blockbuster violent movie or inhibit their paid, gun toting security.

[Brickbat]

8. "We need to erase this stigma of asking questions to protect our children."

Whaaat?

[Eleanors38]

38. God, they have MSM, the DNC, foundations, and a billionaire or two. What else?

[jmg257]

41. I think her point is asking about potential dangers when it comes to her kid...

"My peers are the moms in the pickup lines at my son’s school, and I make sure to say things like, before I drop my son off on a playdate, I say, "Do you have a gun in your house? And how do you keep it stored?" It's the same thing if I drop my son off on a playdate and I see a swimming pool, I’ll say, "Do you have a gate for that?" I feel like asking those questions is OK. We need to erase this stigma of asking questions to protect our children."

[Brickbat]

42. Right, she says she "feel[s] like asking those questions is OK." So there's no stigma there.

While the plural of anecdote is not data, I've never heard of anyone being reluctant to ask about guns when their kids go to new houses -- or they don't worry about it.

[jmg257]

43. Agreed. Kind of thinking Northwest Glendale has a lot more pools then guns,

so its smart of her to ask about those gates.

[Brickbat]

44. Indeed.

[ileus]

9. So I ask; Whose job is it to protect me and my fam?

and who can do it best???

[beevul]

10. "They are a very moderate, responsible and comprehensive organization..."

Right.


The brady bunch and the rest are about as "moderate" as the WBC.

[jmg257]

16. Very cute in Blades of Glory.

Seems like s nice person.

[ManiacJoe]

20. That post should have come with a drink warning!

Fischer's research led her to the Brady Center. "They are a very moderate, responsible and comprehensive organization,

[Duckhunter935]

30. I know, beer out the nose kind of sucks, lol

[Eleanors38]

25. Sylvester Stallone is a big fund-raiser for the Brady Center...

...Doesn't he have one of those peculiarly rare licenses in Cali?

[DonP]

29. The Grabber's fall back is always; "Well, they are threatened by gun owners"

Because coincidentally, nobody but rich and famous people ever seem to feel "threatened" you know, by an abusive ex, or a neighborhood gang.

And amazingly, none of these threatened people ever bother to show actual threats, beyond a few anonymous Facebook posts that they might have created themselves.

Funny how nobody ever investigates or prosecutes the threatening people or groups as long as they get their permits to carry?

You'd almost think they were full of crap?

[beevul]

49. Rumor has it that stallone has quite the collection.

I wonder if the Grabbers think he needs a collection for self defense...or if they just look the other way because "the rich will always be able to become armed and protected one way or another".

You'd almost think they were full of crap?

I know, right?

[sarisataka]

27. I cannot fault the actress

For having a lazy script writer.

He didn't even try to change the script. All of the buzz words are there in order even, epidemic of violence, internet gun sales, common sense, bad-apple gun dealers... The only thing he did to freshen it up was to add that line about being a moderate organization. Credit where due, that was funny.

[pablo_marmol]

53. Clearly, you don't care about the victims of gun violence SecMo.

Otherwise, you would have taken my suggestion to call out Kamala Harris for the felony-shitty job she's done in California.

http://213ajq29v6vk19b76q3534cx.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Special-Feature-K-Harris.pdf

Ready for you to employ the genetic fallacy once again to dismiss this meticulously cited article, since you can't deal with the truthful content.