I'm not sure which is more insulting

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

On one hand...

...there is the assumption by many pro-control folks that a gun purchased for self-defense will almost never be used for that purpose.

OTOH...

...there is the assumption that, if guns banned altogether, most or all of those wounded or killed by a gun today (including suicides) would be unscathed.

So, for you, if you're pro-gun, which is more insulting?

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[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. More guns than people, no wonder this country is so messed up.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

2. Oh my

It's worse than you think. You see of all the privately owned firearms in the world (about 600,000,000) at least half are in the US. Kinda boggles the mind doesn't it?



To hear the control side talk I'd expect half or more of the world's murders to be here, too.






But they aren't........... I wonder why...........

[beevul]

3. Thats the reason?

More guns than people, no wonder this country is so messed up.

Thats the reason?

Less than 1 percent of guns are used in taking of life, and less than 1 percent of those who own them, use a gun to take life.

In light of that, how exactly is it the guns or the people that own them, that are the problem?

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

6. "this country is messed up..."

My county of residence has a crime rate lower than any of the lowest crime nations of the world such as Norway.

We have 7 guns per each man, woman and child here.

[GreydeeThos]

4. I have a revolver that could be used for self-defense

So far it has not been used in that capacity - and I hope that it never is.

The premise that 'banning the private ownership of guns will prevent gun deaths' is disingenuous in that it offers hope that the ban will stop the crime of murder that just happens to be committed with a gun. The real problem is murder, not murder with a gun.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

5. Revolver man here...

Smith Model 66-5 w/ 2.5 inch barrel, Robar satin black coating, laser engraved rosewood grips

OK, OK, OK..... I admit, it's a sexy gun.

[oneshooter]

8. Revolvers? Sure why not..........

4 3/4"Colt SAA, 45LC with silvertips.

And before anybody says anything, it the same firearm I shoot in competition. It is an extension of my arm.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

9. Nice....

Very nice.....

That's old school cool.

[msongs]

7. one thing we can agree on: people killed by shots from gun owners are dead nt

[stone space]

10. The most insulting thing is when Zimmerman's internet lawyers...

...insult your intelligence as they attempt to intimidate and bully folks into risking the lives and the lives of their families, so as not to offend ammosexuals out on dinner dates with their guns by running away to safety.

I mean, how stupid do they think we are?

[sarisataka]

11. Since you believe

"Ammosexual" is a real thing, what mental gymnastics do you use to convince yourself it is not a TOS violation?

No bigoted hate speech.

Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic.

[stone space]

12. "...or other comparable characterisic."

No bigoted hate speech.

Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic.

Now I've got coffee all over my keyboard and monitor.

Please put a warning in your post title next time.

Define "comparable".

[jmg257]

13. You shouldn't care just how stupid others think you are.

Your reaction is not really a matter of IQ.

"The fight-or-flight response (also called the fight, flight, freeze, or fawn response), is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival"

Fear is wonderful thing - it keeps us from doing all kinds of stupid things. And causes us to do all kinds of smart things.
It's OK to be afraid.

So if you are afraid of guns, or people with guns, and you see a person with a gun, and that makes you feel afraid - then you are best to get the heck out of there - fast. The dumbest animals will react the same way (although I have seen a fawn just lie down right in the middle of the road in front of my car).

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

14. Why does Zimmeramn keep....

...peering his beady eyes into these discussions?

One day upon a stair...

I saw a little (stand your ground) man who wasn't there...

[stone space]

15. Typically, DU's Zimmerman supporters determine the tone here by jumping in early.

Here's an example of a self-avowed Zimmerman supporter getting in the very first post with a Skittles wisecrack.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172192055#post1

WOW..

If you are waiting in line, to buy a pack of skittles, and you flee out the door because you see a person with a rifle slung over their shoulder, or a holstered firearms, you will be the one to have committed a crime.

And you would be the one prosecuted for it.

I suppose that it is supposed to be funny.

But it's only funny to those who support cold-blooded murder, and to their enablers here in this forum.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

16. Not if you put....

...the Skittles back first.

There's a big difference between being a heartfelt supporter of someone and arguing law pertaining to a case.

I remember when the ACLU defended the KKK's right to free speech.

Hardly a 'white supremacist supporting organization' I would argue.

http://aclu.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000744

A person's rights do not disappear if enough people dislike him.

[stone space]

18. Not going to discuss it as if it has meaning and content.

Not if you put....

...the Skittles back first.

The only meaning to a Zimmerman supporter jumping in at the first comment in such a thread to make a wisecrack about skittles is to take a racist slap at the faces to Trayvon's family.

Not going to enter into a dialogue regarding the subtleties of meaning when Zimmerman supporters make jokes about skittles.

That's a level of literality not justified by the racist intent on the post in question.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

17. Just so you know...

...it's rude to thread jack for some wholly unrelated purpose.

Maybe you could start your own thread about that.

Better yet, maybe you could talk to Florida about changing there laws with which I infer you have a problem.
Maybe you could start your own thread about that, too.