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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:01 AM Feb 2016

State by State, More Guns Mean More Killing of Women

I found this over at the Whine Cellar --

State by State, More Guns Mean More Killing of Women

A new study from Boston University has found a strong correlation between a state’s rate of gun ownership and its rate of women murdered by people they know. The article, soon to be published in Violence and Gender, stands to combat claims from conservatives that guns make women safer. In fact, relaxing gun laws may have dire implications for domestic violence.

Authors Michael Siegel and Emily Rothman studied firearm ownership rates and how they compared with gun-related homicides of both men and women, committed by both strangers and nonstrangers, from 1981 to 2013. After controlling for age, race, region, poverty, unemployment, education, divorce rate, alcohol use, and a number of other potentially extenuating factors, they found that higher levels of gun ownership corresponded to higher rates of women being killed by people they know, but not by strangers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/01/25/state_by_state_more_guns_mean_more_killing_of_women.html


Did you notice this part --

After controlling for age, race, region, poverty, unemployment, education, divorce rate, alcohol use, and a number of other potentially extenuating factors...

That's a euphemism for "torturing the data until it told us what we wanted." I'd wager alcohol and other forms of substance abuse is a far more greater indicator of domestic violence than firearm ownership but that was excised because GUNZ!
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State by State, More Guns Mean More Killing of Women (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #1
Speaking of paranoia and rage: "gun nutters are happy to see more dead innocents" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #2
Jeez, what a big fat lie. GGJohn Feb 2016 #3
I'd wager we can find plenty of posts of pro-gun control DU'ers advocating Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #4
There have been plenty of those on DU, and allowed to stand by juries. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #6
Remember allthe "Break his arms" posts? DonP Feb 2016 #8
Anxiously looking forward to your plans to end the NRA and the 2nd amendment DonP Feb 2016 #7
"Steeped?" beevul Feb 2016 #9
and who would that be Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #10
IMHO, the domestic abuse problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #5

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
3. Jeez, what a big fat lie.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016
Our local gun nutters are happy to see more dead innocesteeped in a culture of paranoia and rage.nts. They are a death cult


Let's see some proof.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. I'd wager we can find plenty of posts of pro-gun control DU'ers advocating
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016

SWAT-ing, violent assault and other offenses against law-abiding, peaceable gun owners while our interlocutor would be hard-pressed to find any violent ideations from our side.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. Remember allthe "Break his arms" posts?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

When the white guy tackled the legal black concealed carry guy in Wal Mart?

We had all kinds of "tolerant" gun controllers calling for no prosecution and wishing that he'd broken his arms so he couldn't use his gun.

Gun controllers are such caring, sympathetic people.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
7. Anxiously looking forward to your plans to end the NRA and the 2nd amendment
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:06 AM
Feb 2016

Of course, you'll be handicapped by the fact that it requires doing things out here in the real world, and all the studies and polls don't matter out where people actually have to get off the couch and vote.

As to paranoia and rage, you seem to be projecting an awful lot of it toward your fellow DU members. Better take a ceep breath or two, that can get you gone if you lose control and self control seems to be a real issue for gun control fans,

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
9. "Steeped?"
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

You aren't a former robber are you?

I smell a dirty sock.

Good job not using "gun tucked in their pants" and "chuck e cheese" though.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,577 posts)
5. IMHO, the domestic abuse problem...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

...outweighs the generic issue of gun violence. I expect there are some folks that would disagree but I can't think of anything that would motivate more antisocial behavior than having no refuge like a safe home where family and acceptance serve as a respite from the potential harshness of other aspects of life.

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