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shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:16 PM Feb 2016

People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules


"Certain semiautomatic firearms deserve the highest level of protection the Constitution allows, says appellate court.

In a major victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Thursday sided with a broad coalition of gun owners, businesses and organizations that challenged the constitutionality of a Maryland ban on assault weapons and other laws aimed at curbing gun violence.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit said the state's prohibition on what the court called "the vast majority of semi-automatic rifles commonly kept by several million American citizens" amounted to a violation of their rights under the Constitution.

"In our view, Maryland law implicates the core protection of the Second Amendment -- the right of law-abiding responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home," Chief Judge William Traxler wrote in the divided ruling.

Provisions that outlaw these firearms, Traxler wrote, "substantially burden this fundamental right."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/assault-weapons-constitutional-protection_us_56b38ec7e4b08069c7a65c21
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People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules (Original Post) shadowrider Feb 2016 OP
Strict scrutiny is the correct test for AWB-type laws. appal_jack Feb 2016 #1
I want a bazooka n2doc Feb 2016 #2
And you can have one, GGJohn Feb 2016 #3
I'd've thought melm00se Feb 2016 #4
Yes, it is my understanding that a civilian can own one, GGJohn Feb 2016 #5
A live "bazooka" is not only registered as a Destructive Device.. virginia mountainman Feb 2016 #6
The Maryland law bans non-automatic civilian rifles with handgrips that stick out, mostly .22's, benEzra Feb 2016 #7
During the battle of Lexington and Concord the founders were fighting to protect weapon caches Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #8
We also issued "Letters of marque and reprisal". beevul Feb 2016 #10
Not many people know shadowrider Feb 2016 #11
This forum has been good for forcing me to learn more about history, law, etc. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #12
You are one of the very few shadowrider Feb 2016 #13
Thank you Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #14
Cool. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #9
 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
1. Strict scrutiny is the correct test for AWB-type laws.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 05:07 PM
Feb 2016

When explicitly-enumerated Constitutional rights are on the line, judges damn well should employ "strict scrutiny."

More from the article:

Indeed, the biggest surprise in Chief Judge Traxler's 66-page opinion is the words "strict scrutiny," a stringent constitutional test that most government laws and regulations fail. Other courts have applied more forgiving standards to similar gun legislation and upheld it.

The 4th Circuit's decision didn't outright strike down the Maryland legislation. Instead, it instructed a lower court to subject the provision to the higher legal standard, meaning more litigation and the possibility of a future showdown at the Supreme Court -- though maybe not yet, according to Winkler.


k&r,

-app

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
3. And you can have one,
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 05:30 PM
Feb 2016

all it takes is the ATF background check, the $200.00 tax stamp and someone willing to sell you one.

melm00se

(5,053 posts)
4. I'd've thought
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

a bazooka would fall into the destructive devices category. aren't those disallowed under the NFA?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. Yes, it is my understanding that a civilian can own one,
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

but you have to go through an extensive ATF background check, pay the $200.00 tax stamp, you can also own a tank and the tank rounds under the same conditions.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
6. A live "bazooka" is not only registered as a Destructive Device..
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

The ROCKETS are as well and each one is subject to the $200 tax stamp, and full NFA controls

...and a few are privately owned..

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
7. The Maryland law bans non-automatic civilian rifles with handgrips that stick out, mostly .22's,
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:40 AM
Feb 2016

not rocket launchers. There is a huge difference in effect between a rocket launcher that can blow up a building or an armored vehicle, and a non-automatic small-caliber civilian rifle.

The year before Maryland's ban was passed, Maryland had 365 murders in the entire state (2012). All styles of rifles combined accounted for only 5 of them. Banning rifle handgrips and magazines that stick out has nothing whatsoever to do with fighting violence or saving lives.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/20tabledatadecpdf

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. During the battle of Lexington and Concord the founders were fighting to protect weapon caches
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:07 AM
Feb 2016

that included artillery whose only use was demolishing fortifications.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. This forum has been good for forcing me to learn more about history, law, etc.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

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