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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:14 PM Jan 2016

The firearm-homicde rate is apparrently not tied to restrictive firearm laws

For 2010 DC and Maryland are 2 of only 4 areas with firearm murder rates above the national average for murder (4.8 per 100,000). They are both also in the bottom of the Guns & Ammo list for firearms friendly laws. At the same time five states among the top 12 friendliest in firearm laws are also among the states with firearm murder rates less than a third of the national average for murder overall. I'm referring to Vermont, Utah, Wyoming, New Hampshire and Montana.

The simplest conclusion is that gun-control laws don't affect gun murder rates very much.

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The firearm-homicde rate is apparrently not tied to restrictive firearm laws (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 OP
But some want tax funding to prove otherwise. Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #1
It is my opinion that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #5
They don't want 'the simplest conclusion'. beevul Jan 2016 #2
re: "This is deliberate and calculated." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #6
No... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #7
DUzy discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #8
Huh? EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #3
Well I was able to find 4 on wikipedia discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #4

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
5. It is my opinion that...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

...working to prove what is not the case is a waste of time, money and effort. YMMV

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
2. They don't want 'the simplest conclusion'.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

They don't want 'the simplest conclusion'.

They want to muddy the waters, then go for 'the simplest solution'.

Exhibit A: "Gun deaths", rather than discussing firearm homicides and suicides as the distinctly different things with distinctly different root causes and therefore solutions, that they are.

This is deliberate and calculated.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
4. Well I was able to find 4 on wikipedia
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jan 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

The other 2 are Louisiana and Missouri. Again this is data from 2010. The national average for murder that I found for 2010 was 4.8 per 100,000.

As I said, or at least was trying to say, gun laws don't appear to have much influence over the incidence of gun murder.
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