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The obvious conclusion... (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 OP
No way to tell from the graph HassleCat Jan 2016 #1
Sure, a thousand people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #2
Domestic manufacturing of guns has tripled since 2007 krispos42 Jan 2016 #10
Extra shifts for over a year now at Springfield Armory, out in Geneseo IL DonP Jan 2016 #11
lol Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #12
My place of employment is trying to get inspection work for Kimber krispos42 Jan 2016 #13
Trouble explaining Illinois DonP Jan 2016 #3
but but but... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #5
The tipping point has been reached. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #8
The gun control tipping point has been reached. beevul Jan 2016 #18
Same in Connecticut, the number of people getting pistol permits went up, not down Lurks Often Jan 2016 #6
I want to get mine krispos42 Jan 2016 #14
I forgot about the permit to purchase a handgun, but not CCW it Lurks Often Jan 2016 #15
That's the word I wanted discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #9
Showing the controllers... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #4
when all else fails... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #7
Business at the indoor gun range where I shoot has picked up over the last few months. pablo_marmol Jan 2016 #16
When the number of ranges surpasses... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #22
Easy answer ... DonP Jan 2016 #23
re: "...miss out on a lot of tax revenue..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #24
Nah, They're better off without those "death spewers" in the city or county DonP Jan 2016 #25
Well.... Kang Colby Jan 2016 #17
I think it's just some control fans trying to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #21
I want a CZ RAMI ileus Jan 2016 #19
Looks nice. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #20
Had one years ago - never really armed up to it. jmg257 Jan 2016 #26
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. No way to tell from the graph
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

The stats depicted are not an indication of how many people own firearms. A million firearms might be purchased by 1,000 people each buying 1,000 guns. Or a million people might buy one gun apiece.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
10. Domestic manufacturing of guns has tripled since 2007
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

Imports have doubled during the same time period.


"The More You Know"™

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
11. Extra shifts for over a year now at Springfield Armory, out in Geneseo IL
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

Must be tough trying to keep up with that "guy" that just keeps buying thousands of more guns every month.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
13. My place of employment is trying to get inspection work for Kimber
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

We did some stuff for them a couple of years ago, so maybe...


We might even get blessed by the ATF to make firearm components or whatever. We might as well; if our stuff can be out there crawling around Mars or on the ISS there's no reason we can't make quality gun parts.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
3. Trouble explaining Illinois
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jan 2016

To buy a gun or ammunition in Illinois (or for anyone from Illinois to buy a gun in Indiana for that matter) you must first have a Firearm Owners ID (FOID) card.

In the last 2 years the Illinois State Police now say there have been 1.7 million new FOID Cards issued, not renewals, since the card is good for 10 years.

But I'm sure Illinois is just an anomaly for new gun owners.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. The tipping point has been reached.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

It's just not the angle of inclination gun control advocates were hoping to achieve.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
18. The gun control tipping point has been reached.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jan 2016


The 'S.S. Gun Control' has tipped over, while Brady, VPC, Bloomberg, LCPGV, CSGV and other like orgs send tugboats to try and right it.




krispos42

(49,445 posts)
14. I want to get mine
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

If I have to get a state-issued permit just to buy ammo, then I might as well get the nice fancy one that lets me do everything.


They have four kinds now...

Ammo
Long gun, ammo
Handgun, long gun, ammo
Concealed handgun, long gun, ammo.


WTF?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
15. I forgot about the permit to purchase a handgun, but not CCW it
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jan 2016

However I have heard that most people get the Permit to Carry since the costs and requirements are the same as the permit to purchase a handgun.

There is no requirement in CT to carry it concealed, although most people do.

As to the laws, this is what happens when people who know nothing about firearms write laws

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
4. Showing the controllers...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jan 2016

...oft repeated claim that fewer and fewer people own guns to be completely unsupported by the data. Well done

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
16. Business at the indoor gun range where I shoot has picked up over the last few months.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jan 2016

I was there this morning. Weekday mornings used to be fairly quiet -- now there are more employees behind the counter, and the place is hustling.

Meanwhile, I work directly across the street from the biggest indoor range in the county......which opened a couple of years ago. Always screaming on weekends, of course, but steady business during working hours which picks up dramatically after the dinner hour on weekdays.

You betcha --- the increase in gun sales is a reflection of current gun owners simply buying more.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
23. Easy answer ...
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jan 2016

... must be the same 5 guys that the gun control people claim are buying all the new guns and ammo are using it up faster and they each want their own 20 lane range to shoot.

We have 5 new ranges from basic to the "Guntry Club" membership types opening on the South Suburbs of Chicago alone. Several more are being built in the North suburbs. Big $$$ investment for a "shrinking" market segment.

And all but 1 are just across the border from Cook County, who will miss out on a lot of tax revenue they desperately need.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
24. re: "...miss out on a lot of tax revenue..."
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jan 2016

Maybe Michael "B-for-bucks" Bloomberg will help them out.

ya-think?

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
25. Nah, They're better off without those "death spewers" in the city or county
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jan 2016

At least that's what passes for the "logic" our control minded friends use.

But for the life of me, I can't recall anyone passing a gun range ever being shot by a stray round?

We went through it on DU when Illinois was considering passing their own AWB and companies like Les Baer and a few others, near the Quad Cities moved across the river to Iowa. They moved and took their tax revenue, a few hundred jobs, from skilled Union Machinist to floor sweepers and all the lunch places, gas stations local businesses they helped support.

The response here, including one of the hosts of the other imaginary gun group, was; "Good Riddance, Illinois doesn't want those kind of jobs anyway."

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
17. Well....
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jan 2016

There goes that theory. I was talking to a wholesaler rep the other day, and based on a discussion with top brass within PA's State Police (PSP), 65% of new purchases in PA are first time buyers. PSP is the state POC for NICS.

So we've seen data from IL, CT, MA, and PA anecdotally and new buyers are through the roof. Maryland's HQL (FOID) also had the highest rate of growth in 2015 in the program's two year history. Obviously, all the gun nuts are just getting around to making their first purchase.

It feels good, bro.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
26. Had one years ago - never really armed up to it.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

Thumb safety extremely small, factory mags weren't very reliable.

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