Private gun sales, a point of information

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(According to the figure at the link) Nine states have UBCs for all gun sales: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon and Rhode Island. Six others have UBCs for handgun sales: Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.

Handguns are the most common type of gun used in firearm deaths. That leaves 35 states without BGC laws on sales between private sellers.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html

Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks.

Under the Gun Control Act of 1968, federal law clearly defined private sellers as anyone who sold no more than four firearms per year. But the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act lifted that restriction and loosely defined private sellers as people who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood.

Some states have opted to go further than federal law by requiring background checks at gun shows for any gun transaction, federal license or not. Five states, most recently Colorado and Connecticut, mandate universal background checks, an even more stringent standard that imposes background checks on almost all gun purchases, including over the Internet.

Even in states that do not require background checks of private vendors, the venue hosting the event may require it as a matter of policy. In other cases, private vendors may opt to have a third-party licensed dealer run a background check even though it may not be required by law.

[pipoman]

1. Jezuz fucking keerist

Why the stupid, completely unnecessary fucking lying every fucking time anyone publishes anything about this, ffs.

"Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks."

A complete fucking lie that is. This hasn't one single solitary thing th do with fucking gun shows....nothing....FFS

This would be true if the words "at gunshows" were removed...

Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks.


/rant

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

2. True enough

Maybe "grocery store parking lot loophole" just doesn't sing.

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3. before 1986

what if I inherited a big assed collection I didn't have space for or want? Was it legal to sell all 150 guns to an FFL or consign them? Get an kitchen table FFL?

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4. Your options

1- Roll the dice and take your chances on selling privately.
2- Ask an FFL who ought to know the state and federal laws involved.
3- Check with an attorney.

A lot of this stuff is difficult to sort out.

I live jerseystan where a wristrocket slingshot might be regulated similarly with firearms. (I don't really know or care. I don't own any slingshots.) I have some distant family in PA. Should I inherit a firearm owned by an out of state resident and I'm neither a movie star, friend of the governor nor offspring of a well known chairman of the board of whatever, what do I do?

Here's a more complicated question. Say I am among the privileged and connected and actually have one of the rare New Jersey CCW permits. This license for sure allows me CC in state. In the upper New York Bay there's an island with a big well known statue on it. The island sits in an area of water defined as New Jersey. The island has a postal address in Manhattan County New York. The entirety of the island is also a national park. If I CC on my private yacht and dock at the island, because I'm just too good to take the ferry like a commoner, at what point do I begin committing a crime? Probably not before docking but definitely after disembarking and setting foot on the island. Which jurisdiction(s)? If more than one, who gets first crack at me? (Accepting that I would never actually be charged but, hey, I'm not a commoner.)