Guns in schools, open carry or not, roundly rejected in Michigan poll

[SecularMotion]

You may not believe this, but 52 percent of National Rifle Association members in Michigan do not favor the open carry of weapons in schools. That opinion persists whether they own a shotgun, rifle or handgun.

That's just one of the revealing findings in an EPIC-MRA survey that also found regardless of where you live, there is not a majority for open or concealed carry in the schools. Even up North, where the gun culture is alive and well, 68 percent don't want their kids to see a weapon in school, and 57 percent oppose concealed weapons.

The NRA numbers on concealed guns are closer, as 64 percent favor that while 27 percent do not. In comparison, non-gun owners are staunchly against any guns, as 81 percent oppose open carry and 72 percent oppose hiding the guns.

The issue based on gender shows only one slight difference. Fifty percent of the men are OK with concealed guns, while 66 percent of the women are not. The two agree on opposing open carry: 64 percent for men and 73 percent for women.

http://www.mlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/11/guns_in_schools_open_carry_or.html

[BlueJazz]

1. Fifty percent of the men are OK with concealed guns, while 66 percent of the women are not.

[branford]

2. A lot of gun rights supporters are not fans of open carry for a number of reasons,

and such polling is entirely uncontroversial.

The real issues is when gun controllers try to ban both open AND concealed carry, whether explicitly or through onerous and arbitrary "may issue" schemes.

If you want to nationally prohibition on open carry, with reasonable exceptions for hunting, sport and similar activities, I imagine a great many gun rights supporters would be willing to compromise if offered nation mandatory "shall issue" concealed carry firearm permits, including state and local preemption and reciprocity.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. This poll was about schools...

not much hunting going on there. At least I hope not.

I'm surprised so many are OK with guns, open or not, in schools

[branford]

5. There are many millions of people in large swaths of the country

who do not recoil in fear at the mere sight of a private firearm. Guns are ubiquitous in many places without any problems at all. Historically, this was even more so, and many schools used to have rifle clubs or students bringing their gun to school during hunting season. Your surprise potentially speaks more about your limited experience or understanding of many of your fellow citizens than any real danger.

Never forget that there are 80-100+ million legal gun owners in the USA, representing more than 1 out of every 3 adults, and the percentage of crime committed by these people is proportionally minuscule to the population.

Of course, that does not mean all gun supporters object to all firearm restrictions or safety procedures in schools (or anywhere else). Gun owners and gun rights supporters are not nearly as dangerous as you appear to surmise, nor are their opinions as monolithic as some believe. However, when politicians like the president and Hillary Clinton discuss places like Australia and the UK as models for gun control, it reveals an ultimate goal of strict bans, and it's then unsurprising that gun rights supporters become totally unwilling to compromise when each inch demanded is intended to become a mile.

As I stated, I believe many gun rights supporters would compromise on open carry rules. However, compromise means someone offered in return that they are otherwise unable to achieve.

[Duckhunter935]

8. We used to take rifles

To school during hunting season

[msongs]

4. maybe we need seperate schools for gun obsessionists nt

[branford]

6. Good luck with that. nt

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. would they be separate but equal? n/t