Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumPundits Say Gun Reform Cost Democrats a Key Virginia Race. This Voting Data Tells a Different Story.
Speculation is the operative word. An analysis by The Trace of voting results from the race reveals a more nuanced picture that can only be clarified if more data on pre-election polling and get-out-the-vote efforts is made public. But breaking the district into three distinct parts, what the numbers show is this: In the rural, conservative segment of the district located in Powhatan County, turnout was indeed unusually high but absent proof that single-issue pro gun residents voted in droves, theres evidence to suggest that a different local variable was responsible for the increase in Republican ballots. And in suburban Chesterfield County, Gecker outperformed the relevant past Democratic candidate by a significant margin.
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http://www.thetrace.org/2015/11/dan-gecker-virginia-senate-race-gun-control/
OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)All this article does is armchair quarterback some statists to demonstrate supporting gun control is a 'good thing'. Occam's Razor tells us it is a matter of turnout. Our people came out to vote for the Democrat and his policies. There were 1500 more people who turned out to vote against gun control and we lost.
All the super smart mathematical analysis in the world will not win a single seat if we force voters to the other side.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)It's over. The NRA myth has died. Gun control is no longer a "third rail".
OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/article_71d5eace-3cd0-55fa-8d05-76f4bda2032b.html
OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)We sit smugly knowing we are 'correct' while the Republicans run the show. We will not survive as a party if this continues.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)No good Democrat will defend the NRA which gives you a victory by default.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The passive-aggressive "advice" for Democrats not to run on gun control was hatched in the propaganda bunkers of the NRA long ago...we at DU know that!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)You are, at best, a kibitzer...
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I was wondering how long before you referenced the NRA.
That's a sure sign that you've lost the debate and it's time to throw out the NRA meme.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Does anyone have any doubt that if the Bloomberg supported gun control supporters had won, would we be hearing how it's a proven winning strategy and how the Evil NRA outspent them, for the next 6 months?
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)The spin on this is astounding, gun control orgs just can't bring themselves to admit that gun control, oops, meant to say gun safety orgs. , is a smoking wreck in this country.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Pay no attention to the obvious results of hyping gun control in purple states.
Instead, let's all listen to the polling companies paid for by Bloomberg and other people with a real agenda driven ax to grind on the issue.
Ideological purity at its finest.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Don't give an inch to the regressives...
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)That's the funniesgt thing I've heard all day.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)and is one of many that will lose him the primary
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)... 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governorships, 69 House seats and 13 Senate seats ... so far.
Are you a consultant for DWS? She seems to be following your "sage" advice.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Once she secures the nomination.
I fully expect photo-ops of her shooting clay pigeons and talking about duck hunting with her grandpa when she was a little girl.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)that.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)While it's very nice of them to post these case studies on media literacy for us,
I don't think they're having quite the effect desired...
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)That is all that is needed to be known, at least your not posting from World Nut Daily today...
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)What else do I need to say? You think he is going to publish an article acknowledging his own failure?
Another thing to keep in mind is that while Bloomberg funded McPike and Gecker (who lost), there were other candidates who foolishly acknowledged support for gun control and lost. If gun control is something that the populace wants, why do gun control supporters have such a hard time being elected? I think the answer is that support for gun control is a radical fringe position that has no business being associated with the democratic party.