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virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:29 PM Oct 2015

CSGV is descending into a strange emotion filled world, and it is fascinating to watch....

"The Mosin-Nagant rifle he carries is basically a fetish rifle for hardcore insurrectionists"




They could have used the term "powerful"here and been correct, NO, they label a potentially 120 year old, 5 shot bolt action rifle a "fetish" item. With all the fear mongering they do over semi-automatic rifles that have ergonomic features, and normal capacity magazines. They flip their lid of a old bolt action gun, that can only hold 5 rounds, that takes a lot of skill and practice to reload those five rounds with ANY speed whatsoever, and is very "uncomfortable" for most folks to shoot.

Out of all the rifles they find "offensive" and demand them to be banned immediately, this is about as pedestrian a firearm as they come.

I sense much desperation with them, they are getting *much* more irrational here as of late for some reason. Bloomberg's check must be late or something.
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CSGV is descending into a strange emotion filled world, and it is fascinating to watch.... (Original Post) virginia mountainman Oct 2015 OP
it is not scoped, but it can be. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #1
Fetish rifle for Hardcore insurrectionists sarisataka Oct 2015 #2
+1. My first thought. Brickbat Oct 2015 #5
The 91/30 modified sniper rifle can be pretty effective inside 200 yards tularetom Oct 2015 #3
The only thing they are well informed of.. virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #4
Try buying a killer clipizine for that ole commie rifle. ileus Oct 2015 #6
Why are the weapons so widely used by insurgents? SecularMotion Oct 2015 #7
because there were a lot of them made gejohnston Oct 2015 #8
Simple, if you read sarisataka Oct 2015 #9
We saw more than a few of them in Viet Nam too. n/t DonP Oct 2015 #10
The ammunition is far more powerful than AK47 / SKS ammo JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #11
Widely-used by Cabela's as a come-onn. Sold for $90 last year! Woo-hoo. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #12
Because they're fetishy hardcore fetishists with Mosin-Nagant fetishes. Brickbat Oct 2015 #13

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. The 91/30 modified sniper rifle can be pretty effective inside 200 yards
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:51 PM
Oct 2015

But the only reason the basic 1891 Mosin could be considered a"fetish rifle" is because until recently you could buy one for around a hundred bucks and the ammunition was dirt cheap if you didn't mind steel, non reloadable cases and corrosive Berdan primers.

They're kinda neat old guns, a lot clumsier and more awkward to load than some of the Mausers on the market but built to take abuse.

Obviously whoever wrote the article wasn't very well informed about Mosins.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
4. The only thing they are well informed of..
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:05 PM
Oct 2015

Is propaganda, they know so shocking little about what they talk about it is embarrassing.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
7. Why are the weapons so widely used by insurgents?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:28 AM
Oct 2015
Virtually every country that received military aid from the Soviet Union, China, and Eastern Europe during the Cold War used Mosin–Nagants at various times. Middle Eastern countries within the sphere of Soviet influence — Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian fighters — have received them in addition to other more modern arms. Mosin–Nagants have also seen action in the hands of both Soviet[13] and Mujahadeen forces in Afghanistan during the Soviet Union's occupation of the country during the 1970s and the 1980s. Their use in Afghanistan continued on well into the 1990s and the early 21st century by Northern Alliance forces. Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Mosin–Nagants are still commonly found on modern battlefields around the world. They were used by insurgent forces in the Iraq War and the War in Afghanistan. Mosin–Nagant rifles have even been seen in the present conflict of the Syrian Civil War, in the hands of rebels.[14] Separatists have also used the rifles alongside more modern Russian firearms in the Second war in Chechnya.[citation needed] In addition, scoped Mosins continue to serve as issue sniper rifles with the Afghan Army, the Iraqi Army, the Finnish Army, and with a micrometer sight as a sniper training and precision target rifle with the Finns.[citation needed] Mosin–Nagants have been used by both pro-Russian separatists and pro-Ukrainian forces in the ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin%E2%80%93Nagant#Increased_world-wide_use

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. because there were a lot of them made
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:52 AM
Oct 2015

and inexpensive. Basically, for the same reason the SKS became a popular hunting rifle in the US and Canada.
That makes them easier to find that, say, a Lee Enfield.

sarisataka

(21,007 posts)
9. Simple, if you read
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:53 AM
Oct 2015

Your reference

It is one of the most mass-produced military bolt-action rifles in history with over 37 million units produced since its conception in 1891

At the beginning of the war, the Mosin–Nagant 91/30 was the standard issue weapon of Soviet troops and millions of the rifles were produced and used in World War II by the largest mobilized army in history.

Virtually every country that received military aid from the Soviet Union, China, and Eastern Europe during the Cold War used Mosin–Nagants at various times.


Why are the weapons so widely used by insurgents?
Consider the following-
"Shit-ton"
"Handed out like candy"

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,763 posts)
11. The ammunition is far more powerful than AK47 / SKS ammo
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:24 AM
Oct 2015

It's better for long-distance shots.

But I'd guess the Mosin-Nagant is nowhere near as prevalent as the AK47 family of rifles, or even the SKS.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
13. Because they're fetishy hardcore fetishists with Mosin-Nagant fetishes.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

There, got that out of the way.

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