Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumA man broke in and she couldn't get to her gun in time.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/11/1430745/-A-man-broke-in-and-she-couldn-t-get-to-her-gun-in-timeShe held the man at sword point until police arrived minutes later.
Obviously I posted this because she experienced what I consider to be another, less-discussed reality of owning a gun for self-protection: in the very nano-second you need it, it's not there. Doesn't matter if it's in a safe, your purse, a briefcase, a cereal box, wherever - when the shit hits the fan you probably aren't going to have it in your hand. I am doing good to keep up with my damned phone.
This lady, again, was trained, she has practiced and she has fought. Your training is always with you. Always. This is why I hawk training and self-defense so much.
Early in her SCA experience she did poorly because she didn't want to hurt anybody and that just allowed her opponents to win. She got over it and now teaches self-defense classes.
And yes, I know, nothing makes any sense to the gun demographic. I don't care.
We don't write for them anymore: we write for the people who want change in gun laws so that this country's public spaces are a bit safer. Gun culture won't 'get it' in large part because they don't want to. They are addicted to that gun and the kaleidoscope of fantasies it provides for them and apparently ANYTHING done to save lives, no matter how small is just intolerable and a slippery slope to somewhere... unsure where.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)To ban all guns but make classic weapons of war obligatory. If you want to kill someone you should have to have the damage literally all over your hands. I think it'd be a deterrent.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)find the gun. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
beevul
(12,194 posts)We don't write for them anymore: we write for the people who want change in gun laws so that this country's public spaces are a bit safer. Gun culture won't 'get it' in large part because they don't want to. They are addicted to that gun and the kaleidoscope of fantasies it provides for them and apparently ANYTHING done to save lives, no matter how small is just intolerable and a slippery slope to somewhere... unsure where.
Spoken like someone only interested in strict gun control, as that's the single avenue where you get any resistance from us.
So "ANYTHING" really doesn't mean "ANYTHING" does it.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)If you rely on a firearm, keep it in a quickly accessible site; deal with securing it later (guests, leaving home). This person (and perhaps you) needs advice on this matter. Some in these threads actually believe a gun will automatically jump up and start shooting at a home invader. That is not the case. A gun which is inaccessible is as useless as brick work in your chimney.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)It does seem whe did quite well with her sword training. But her move was first for a gun? She went for a SD weapon when she clearly was NOT trained in its useage. Why?
Was it because she could not be assured the assailant was armed, and her sword training, though a good thing, wouldn't be good enough?
I'm glad she came through this alright, but if she doesn't really know how to store a gun or know how to use it in a crisis, then perhaps she get rid of it.
beardown
(363 posts)Also, I get confused with all the comments about how guns are so dangerous, but then never seem to be able to work for the intended victim when they need them. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to learn how to operate a gun is to go to prison or a mental hospital since those seem to be the only groups that know how to easily operate guns.
I used to have fire extinguishers in my cars and home and barn, but a friend of mine had his car burn up all the while he was struggling to pull the pin and work the level on the fire extinguisher. I've since come to see their complete lack of 100 percent effectiveness and have sold them all off.
On the serious side, not everyone should have a gun as in many cases you'll be more likely to cause more harm than good to your situation. As Spiderman's uncle said "with great power comes great responsibility". Then again, swords ain't exactly butter knives, but I admit that nobody ever got stabbed by a sword they thought was unloaded.
Straw Man
(6,775 posts)... but I never get an answer: If guns are so useless for self-defense, why do cops carry them?
eridani
(51,907 posts)Straw Man
(6,775 posts)This is obviously about more than being in bed, unless you think that's the only time that the "shit hits the fan."
Most cops that I know have a gun pretty close by when they sleep.
Seems to be more about readiness than anything else.