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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:07 PM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton wants to overturn the PLCAA

PLCAA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-gun-control-proposals-to-include-executive-action-1444017603

The Clinton campaign laid out a robust gun-control agenda, including calling on Congress to overturn a 2005 law that bars victims of gun violence from suing gun manufacturers. Mr. Sanders supported that law when he served in the House.


In the 2014 Isla Vista killings, the weapons used include: "Two knives, Glock 34 handgun, Two SIG Sauer P226 handguns and BMW 328i Coupé."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings

Would it be reasonable for the victims and victims families to sue all of those manufactures? If not, how one justify suing any of them?
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Hillary Clinton wants to overturn the PLCAA (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP
We want to get rid of guns not BMW's upaloopa Oct 2015 #1
~~~ discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #3
"We"? Still waiting for that "Gun Control Army" to show up at the voting booth DonP Oct 2015 #5
Who is "we"? GGJohn Oct 2015 #9
I'm pretty sure that I'm part of the American Public. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #13
Then you would be in the 25% of Americans who want to get rid of firearms, GGJohn Oct 2015 #14
"What you mean 'we,' Kemosahbee?" Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #11
Off topic but............ GGJohn Oct 2015 #34
Sue BMW Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #2
~~~ discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4
Don't forget the folks that made the roads used to travel there. ileus Oct 2015 #7
The lawsuit lottery.....part of the new American way. ileus Oct 2015 #6
But it's for a "good cause" - BECAUSE GUNZ!!! DonP Oct 2015 #8
Sometimes the blue team picks up a good cause discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #10
Good for her! stone space Oct 2015 #12
She's doing nothing more than pandering to her base, GGJohn Oct 2015 #15
Wasting money and, more important, time and attention is good for no one discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #17
Depressing to see HRC and Bernie vying for the title of "Toughest on Guns". pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #16
If Hillary pulls Bernie to the left on this, that's a good thing. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #18
Hillary isn't going to pull Bernie anywhere on gun rights, GGJohn Oct 2015 #19
You make it sound like Bernie is incapable of growth. stone space Oct 2015 #20
And you're back at it. GGJohn Oct 2015 #22
Attempting to paint Bernie as inflexible and incapable of growth and evolution. stone space Oct 2015 #23
Please, I beg of you, GGJohn Oct 2015 #24
he can't help it Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #26
Apparently not. GGJohn Oct 2015 #27
Well I am quite sure that one of mine will be alerted on Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #28
Sad truth about the double-standard here re. "gun control"/gun rights discussion. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #31
With some it is sport. tRump is best at it, though Fiorina got him on PP. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #36
Bernie is completely capable of growth. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #30
Yep Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #32
You don't seem to know left from right discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #21
she will not stay there on this issue Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #25
Nope. Not from a moral standpoint, or political. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #29
But the keep telling us Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #33
For the sake of argument ... DonP Oct 2015 #35

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
14. Then you would be in the 25% of Americans who want to get rid of firearms,
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:02 PM
Oct 2015

while the other 75% are opposed to a firearm ban, so, that would make you the minority.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. "What you mean 'we,' Kemosahbee?"
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:20 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary seems to be pulling a Fiorina: Tell the most outrageous tale about the enemy, get a boost in the polls.

Fiorina really let a mud-splattering hippo fart of a story about Planned Parenthood, and the crowd went wild: Got a boost in polls.

Hillary wants Uique status established for gun companies so they can be ued beyind normal product liability statutes, but calls the present staus an exemption only for guns. At least her Bar-ROOM! at the watering hole has the grace of upside down, 180° symmetry, but this muddy surface burst will be applauded by some: Boost in polls? Wait and see.

To controller/banners: Before this law was passed, there were several special exemption suits filed against manufacturers. Do you know the results of these suits?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
34. Off topic but............
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:00 AM
Oct 2015

Ten thousand Indians are descending on the Lone Ranger and Tonto, the Lone Ranger looks at Tonto and says "Tonto, we need to get to those rocks and shoot it out with those Indians and save our lives", Tonto looks at the Lone Ranger and says, "Where do you get this we shit white man?"

ileus

(15,396 posts)
7. Don't forget the folks that made the roads used to travel there.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:57 PM
Oct 2015

and doorknobs...without doorknobs the killer would never have been able to exit the house.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. But it's for a "good cause" - BECAUSE GUNZ!!!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:47 PM
Oct 2015

Our gun control minded friends have a situational ethics problem, plus they are short sighted to a fault.

No problem for them using a back door approach to closing down gun manufacturers with lawsuits.

But if the same thing was tried as a back door way to shut down surgical instrument manufacturers for women's health issues, they'd scream like crazy about how horrible and unconstitutional it was.

We've lost the House and Senate and how many state legislatures and Governors? Maybe when President Liz Cheney is in the Oval Office for her second term they'll start to figure out their pet issue is a loser.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)
10. Sometimes the blue team picks up a good cause
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:01 PM
Oct 2015

Cutting death and violence is a very good cause. Both the red and the blue teams are in favor. It's how to do that where they differ. Maybe I'm wrong but some aspects of this just seem to me to be something that one of the teams adopts as a position simply because the other team is against it.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
15. She's doing nothing more than pandering to her base,
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:05 PM
Oct 2015

she damn well knows that she can't repeal it, only the Congress can.
What do you think the chances of that are?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,579 posts)
17. Wasting money and, more important, time and attention is good for no one
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 07:35 AM
Oct 2015


BTW, good work dodging the question.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
19. Hillary isn't going to pull Bernie anywhere on gun rights,
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:40 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie's his own man, unlike Hillary and her puppet masters.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
23. Attempting to paint Bernie as inflexible and incapable of growth and evolution.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015
What insult to Bernie?


What you are pushing is a rather common stereotype that some folks have about folks Bernie's age.

I'm old enough myself to discount such stereotypes.



 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
26. he can't help it
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 07:31 PM
Oct 2015

I would have thought several timeouts would have done something.

I feel sorry for him myself

I fully expect for this to be alerted on.


Jury, please keep in mind this poster has been put on vacation several times over some of his posts that were determined to be over the top. That process should change behavior.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
31. Sad truth about the double-standard here re. "gun control"/gun rights discussion.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:43 AM
Oct 2015

Stay strong, brudda man.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
30. Bernie is completely capable of growth.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:41 AM
Oct 2015

Growth exemplified by dumping the "assault weapon" lie among many others.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
29. Nope. Not from a moral standpoint, or political.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:39 AM
Oct 2015

It must really chap your backside that the CDC has recently admitted that guns are used for self-defense with great frequency.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
35. For the sake of argument ...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:23 AM
Oct 2015

... Even if the CDC and any other alphabet soup agency actually had "gun studies" banned.

What stops the Billionaire banker Bloomberg and his ilk from paying for any study (and results) he wants? I know for a fact that ORC accepts checks and POs, I've written several myself to them over the years.

Doesn't Hemenway or the other hired guns need a summer house somewhere?

I mean, what stops the gun controllers from funding studies?

For that matter, I keep hearing from the control side that the NRA pays for Congress loyalty. If that's true, does that mean that gun controllers, even with Bloomberg's and the Joyce Foundation's billions of $$$ behind them, are just too cheap or stupid to buy their own congress critters or outbid the NRA?

I cant think of a reason, well, other than they seem to be both too lazy to get off the couch and do anything or go anywhere to protest and too cheap to join any group or donate in the real world?

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