Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumSurrender: San Fran's iconic, last gun shop to close over new regulations
Ever since it was opened in the 1950s by a celebrated Olympic shooter, High Bridge Arms has been a defiant fixture in San Francisco's Mission District, but a coming wave of new firearms restrictions has prompted the last gun shop in the liberal City by the Bay to pack it in.
The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis. General Manager Steven Alcairo said the shop's owners finally threw in the towel after years of what they consider being unfairly targeted with burdensome rules and regulations. Past regulations have required the shop to bar ads and displays from its windows and install cameras and barriers around its exterior. The shop has 17 cameras as it is, and turns video over to police on request, he said.
"This time, it's the idea of filming our customers taking delivery of items after they already completed waiting periods," Alcairo said. "We feel this is a tactic designed to discourage customers from coming to us.
"This year, it's this and next year will probably be something else," Alcairo added. "We don't want to wait for it."
'There is no slippery slope'
RandySF
(70,673 posts)You cheer on the loss of a business and the resulting jobs just because you disapprove of the product they sell?
Truly amazing.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)just move out of the city limits. The firearms will still go back to the city and they will just lose the tax revenue. It is so funny the controllers think now now weapons will be in the city.
RandySF
(70,673 posts)Do you want them in your neighborhood?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Just think of the possibilities.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)in the city, good for you.
RandySF
(70,673 posts)The FAUX NEWS article didn't say.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)That now longer has a job. Does it matter? At least two men and one lady, not to mention the owners. I am sure it does to them. My guess it is more if they did gun smithing.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)I wonder if the forced-out owner will sue, or move... just over...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...located on the nearest available commercially zoned land to supposedly "alcohol-free"
Wellesley, Massachusetts. Two of them are just over the border.
Isn't feel-good legislation wonderful?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)(Ocala) where you could get liquor. Can you believe that hard liquor sales were verbotten in the county for the University of Florida until 1961? The mind reels.
When hard liquor went legal by vote, Ruby's (and others) went under.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)I almost managed to type that with a straight face...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)benEzra
(12,148 posts)This gun shop pretty much sold only politically correct, gun-control-lobby-approved firearms, many of which would even be legal in Australia and England (never mind mainland Europe), and yet it must be SHUT DOWN because gunz are of the devil, sinners need to be shunned, et cetera.
And you wonder why responsible gun owners don't trust gun control advocates?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,579 posts)...a quote with applicable wisdom from a movie. In Enemy of the State, the main antagonist Thomas Reynolds says:
I've seen killers walk free...
...because the eyewitness
...was an alcoholic.
I've seen sex offenders that couldn't be touched because the victim was a call girl.
Credibility... It's the only currency that means anything on this kind of playing field.
With every confiscation and closure of business pro-control credibility is eroded. People are often their own worst enemy.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)"take their business" elsewhere, then...bring it back into the city..
People will still get what they want, when they want it, and the city, will loose out on tax revenue! it's a real "win win"!
DonP
(6,185 posts)The brain trust that runs this broke, anti union city made sure there were none for the safety of the citizens. Now there are only 3 or 4 gun stores left in the whole county.
But the results are sure worth it. All the gun violence is gone now and unicorns fart rainbows on Michigan Avenue.
"Weekend shootings leave 6 dead, 31 wounded"
"Police found a 38-year-old man bleeding from head and shoulder wounds in an SUV on the Northwest Side early Monday morning while two pre-teen children sat with him in the car.
He was the 37th person shot since Friday afternoon across the city, according to police. Six of the 37 died from their wounds, including a 19-year-old woman and a 20-year-old woman shot in the early hours of Sunday."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-20150906-story.html
Typical weekend. Amazingly, none of the shooters had a concealed carry permit or a FOID card.
I'm sure San Francisco can look forward to the same results, then start blaming other states and counties for their violence, just like the dumbasses blame Indiana for Chicago guns, as if they can buy across state lines.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)There are no gun stores in D.C. either and of course it is a haven of peace. Or perhaps not, and maybe controllers should stop blaming guns and focus on criminals.