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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:48 PM Sep 2015

Project Childsafe

As prep for discussing this program, one that I discovered here, with MDA I called my local police department to see how the program worked and what was available in the way of safety devices.

What a surprise! The LEOs are not participating in the program anymore. Seems that promises were made but not kept. Safety devices were not delivered as promised and when they were they were so substandard that they were considered worse than nothing. The opinion of the local guys was that something so junky as what they saw might instill false security in parents and foreclose them getting something that might actually work.

I looked further into the situation, doing searches on Project Childsafe and following leads from there and low and behold, the program was never funded by the gun industry at all! It was funded by grants from the Federal Government! And when the funds began to dry up due to failure to produce results the NSSF failed to fill in the gaps with their own money!

So, like Eddie Eagle it seems that Project Childsafe is nothing more than bullshit covering the misdeeds of the gun industry. A "feel good" project if you would.

Evil, evil motherfuckers, pretending to be the good guys.

Glad I did the up-front work and saved myself the embarrassment of promoting a piece of shit propaganda.

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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. Lets see some of that intensive
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sep 2015

research. Can you link to it? Just FYI, every new handgun I purchased came with a lock from the manufacturer.

Can you link to the Eddie Eagle faults, I have looked and it is very good about age appropriate training. Don't touch get an adult.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
2. Had no problems getting mine with my purchases...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015


Of course, I keep my guns in a safe, and my personal SD weapon in a lockbox, but I have a collection of trigger locks and action lock-up cable locks, all in proper working order.

Where's the town, who are the "LEOs," where are the links?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
4. Where are the links from all your research, so that we may confirm it for ourselves?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:10 PM
Sep 2015

Also, how many locks has

http://besmartforkids.org/

distributed? Which of these gun lock giveaways have they sponsored?

https://www.google.com/search?q=police+free+gun+locks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#tbm=nws&q=sheriff+police+%22free+gun+locks%22

It would appear that Project Childsafe recalled 10X as many locks
as Be Smart For Kids claims to have delivered:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/09/the-gun-lobbying-group-you-dont-hear-about/279616/



 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. I wonder if the OP's "up front work" revealed a different lock distributed by his side?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

You know, are the controllers distributing a better quality lock? There seems little source citation, just the usual rant.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
9. My guess is it is not a better lock
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 05:42 PM
Sep 2015

Any key lock can be defeated. Funny they are against even the proven thing that does work.

sarisataka

(21,007 posts)
8. Evil, evil motherfuckers
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:00 PM
Sep 2015

who would rather see kids dead...

The recall occurred in 2000. The funding was cut in 2009 and industry funded until now.

Try here http://www.projectchildsafe.org/safety/get-a-safety-kit
just went to Maplewood PD (listed under St Paul in MN) they have a basket of locks in the lobby. Totally different than the recalled locks.


So when is MDA handing out locks?

petronius

(26,662 posts)
10. Obviously the DOJ has a different opinion than your 'local guys'
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 06:08 PM
Sep 2015

And I'm willing to bet that their due diligence before handing out $2.4 million was a bit more than calling one PD and some web searching. Have you considered that you may be falling prey to a bit of confirmation bias here?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
13. That 'research' must be on a shelf next to the PP videos Carly Fiorina saw...
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

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