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TeamPooka

(25,268 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:54 PM Nov 2016

Fuck you Chuck Todd and MTP Daily! They just had a former DEA guy on spouting reefer madness

Todd didn't even debate him.
Just let him go off on how bad cannabis is and it's still a federal illegal drug and fuck you.
No counterpoint, alternative spokesman to debate any points
Just 8 minutes of anti drug legalization pro drug war bullshit
Chuck Todd you are an asshole.

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Fuck you Chuck Todd and MTP Daily! They just had a former DEA guy on spouting reefer madness (Original Post) TeamPooka Nov 2016 OP
Todd , in fact most of the media, should be sacked Foggyhill Nov 2016 #1
Yeah, I saw that. The DEA guy wants to keep the prisons full. Same stupid logic over and RKP5637 Nov 2016 #2
Gary Johnson isn't helping us win the argument that pot doesn't rot your brain NightWatcher Nov 2016 #3
Not from what I heard.... Lochloosa Nov 2016 #9
Those guys were lying. The fork lift was flipped over when I got there. NightWatcher Nov 2016 #10
... Lochloosa Nov 2016 #13
What's a Gary Johnson? TonyPDX Nov 2016 #17
Ted Nugent and Gene Simmons brag that they've never smoked it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #23
Saw that. "Reefer madness" sums it up pretty well. immoderate Nov 2016 #4
Just the kind of fuckhead GWC58 Nov 2016 #8
I believe he also talked about some international treaty that would have to be renegotiated LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2016 #5
well, in fairness.... getagrip_already Nov 2016 #6
using the status quo argument only ignores the facts and citizen's opinions. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #12
I didn't read it as he wanted the status quo..... getagrip_already Nov 2016 #14
Hillary will continue President Obama's policy of keeping Federal hands off of legal states. TonyPDX Nov 2016 #16
didn't say she wouldn't..... getagrip_already Nov 2016 #18
Agreed, but codifying the right to use on a federal level won't prevent states from TonyPDX Nov 2016 #19
Taxes are being paid, at the state level. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #20
Off topic but I told my daughter exboyfil Nov 2016 #7
He's a former DEA agent! What would you expect him to say? I agreed with him on one thing. napi21 Nov 2016 #11
I expect there to be a representative of a counterpoint view to be booked and allowed to debate TeamPooka Nov 2016 #22
It's being settled at the state level. There will be Federal holdouts until the last state is green. TonyPDX Nov 2016 #15
Sargeant Joe Friday doesn't cotton to these weed-smokin' longhair dopers and their rock and roll Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #21

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. Yeah, I saw that. The DEA guy wants to keep the prisons full. Same stupid logic over and
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:58 PM
Nov 2016

over, then harps on no medical value. What a fucken asshole. Same old shit! Man, I've fed up with these types.

NightWatcher

(39,358 posts)
3. Gary Johnson isn't helping us win the argument that pot doesn't rot your brain
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:58 PM
Nov 2016

Have you seen that guy?

I'm a daily user and a fully functional member of society.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. Ted Nugent and Gene Simmons brag that they've never smoked it.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:54 AM
Nov 2016

Can we argue that NOT doing it makes you stupid, an asshole, and a shitty musician to boot?

I think Gary Johnson's problems have to do with ingesting Ayn Rand, not THC.

5. I believe he also talked about some international treaty that would have to be renegotiated
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:59 PM
Nov 2016

to allow marijuana to be sold in our country. Again, no challenge or questioning, just blind acceptance by CT.

getagrip_already

(17,430 posts)
6. well, in fairness....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:01 PM
Nov 2016

the guy was right in that mj is still a sched 1 drug, that only an executive order is holding back doj, and that EVERYTHING can change under a new administration.

It needs to be descheduled, and banking rules need to change.

He was repugnant, but he was right about the current split brained situation.

TeamPooka

(25,268 posts)
12. using the status quo argument only ignores the facts and citizen's opinions.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nov 2016

It is a tactic used to stop the debate not be one.
He was right at being wrong.

getagrip_already

(17,430 posts)
14. I didn't read it as he wanted the status quo.....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:30 PM
Nov 2016

he wanted the good old days when you could pull a felony for a few seeds and flakes.

But, he inadvertantly pointed out that we are not in a good place at the fed level. the only reason the states can set their own rules is because this administration allows it. Another (trumpos) wouldn't.

We have to change the laws, not just the rules.

And no, I don't smoke. I get tested frequently for work.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
16. Hillary will continue President Obama's policy of keeping Federal hands off of legal states.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:33 PM
Nov 2016

The utter shitstorm she'd face otherwise is immeasurable.

getagrip_already

(17,430 posts)
18. didn't say she wouldn't.....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:38 PM
Nov 2016

but we still need to change the laws and codify the right to use without criminal threat.

the classification and the money laws need to change. research needs to be funded. taxes need to be paid.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
19. Agreed, but codifying the right to use on a federal level won't prevent states from
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:49 PM
Nov 2016

refusing to allow sales. Counties will determine whether or not to allow local access (consider that dry counties exist today-- many years after alcohol prohibition ended). We have counties here in Oregon that decided not to allow sales. Of course they don't get a share of the tax revenues generated by legal cannabis, but that's their loss.

Citizens of every state wishing to enjoy legal cannabis must do the difficult work of building local support and getting the facts out, regardless of whether or not use is legalized at the federal level.

exboyfil

(17,995 posts)
7. Off topic but I told my daughter
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:01 PM
Nov 2016

about the old movie Reefer Madness yesterday during our walk. I mentioned it was from the 1940s or 1950s. She didn't realize pot went back that far. Actually I looked up the movie date, and it was 1936 (80 years of drug policy insanity).

napi21

(45,806 posts)
11. He's a former DEA agent! What would you expect him to say? I agreed with him on one thing.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 05:46 PM
Nov 2016

The Federal Law needs to be changed ASAP! If we get a President who isn't a Dem, with the stroke of a pen, the Feds will go back to arresting everyone caught with ANY pot at all. Ya know, I knew that, but it had slipped to the back of my consciousness. It's an issue that needs handled ASAP!

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
15. It's being settled at the state level. There will be Federal holdouts until the last state is green.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:31 PM
Nov 2016

Florida, I predict.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. Sargeant Joe Friday doesn't cotton to these weed-smokin' longhair dopers and their rock and roll
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:31 AM
Nov 2016

big fuckin' surprise.

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