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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,962 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:50 AM Jun 2023

Machete madness: Hunter College professor calls pro-life display 'violent,' then threatens reporter

I haven't had one of my posts removed in a while. I think I'll kick over a jerry can of gasoline.

Some people meet speech with more speech. But this
@Hunter_College
professor meets it with...

*checks notes*

... a machete. Yeah, you read that right.

thefire.org
Machete madness: Hunter College professor calls pro-life display ‘violent,’ then threatens reporter...
An adjunct assistant professor of art at New York’s Hunter College reacted angrily to two pro-life students tabling on campus by berating



Machete madness: Hunter College professor calls pro-life display ‘violent,’ then threatens reporter with a massive blade for asking questions

We should meet speech with more speech. Not machetes.

by Jessie Appleby June 5, 2023

FIRE sees many cases of students attempting to shut down speech they dislike on campus on grounds the speaker — or even the speech itself — is “violent” or “harmful.” But students are not alone in relying on dubious ideas about speech as violence to justify censorial or outright threatening behavior. ... On May 2, Shellyne Rodriguez, adjunct assistant professor of art at New York’s Hunter College, which is part of the City University of New York, reacted angrily to two pro-life students tabling on campus by berating them and vandalizing their display. ...“This is fucking propaganda. What are you going to do, like, anti-trans next?” she told the students. “This is bullshit. This is violent. You’re triggering my students.” ... The pro-life students tried to defuse the situation, but Rodriguez responded, “Get this shit the fuck out of here,” before she shoved their materials off the table and walked away.

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If that had been where the story ended, it would be a shameful misunderstanding of the difference between counterspeech and shutting down others’ speech, but not a particularly noteworthy one, given how often that continues to happen in a variety of contexts. And Rodriguez might still have her job. But that’s not where it ended. Not by a long shot.

After the video went viral, a New York Post reporter knocked on Rodriguez’s Bronx apartment door on May 23 to ask some questions. As soon as he identified himself, Rodriguez reportedly yelled, “Get the fuck away from my door, or I’m gonna chop you up with this machete!” And then Rodriguez did come out, brandishing a machete — yes, a real machete — and held it to the reporter’s neck as a photographer accompanying him snapped away. Rodriguez retreated into her apartment, so the reporter and photographer left the building. But then Rodriguez, still carrying the machete, followed them outside. She chased the photographer down the street to his car and reportedly approached the reporter and kicked him in the shins before returning to her building.

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FIRE routinely defends the free expression rights of objectors to protest a speaker or speech they dislike — including the right to ask a speaker pointed questions or make rude or uncivil comments during Q&A. But vandalism, disruption, and violence do not qualify as permissible counterspeech. We expect students to abide by these standards, and it is not too much to ask the same of their professors.

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Machete madness: Hunter College professor calls pro-life display 'violent,' then threatens reporter (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 OP
The Fire is right wing crap. NoRethugFriends Jun 2023 #1
True. Make sure you see the machete in her hand and at the neck of a reporter. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Jun 2023 #6
Sorry. I misunderstood. I get it now. Thanks. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #8
Thank you! I deleted mine. Have a great day!!!!! jimfields33 Jun 2023 #10
Same here. You too. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #11
Do you believe the reports are fabricated, or that her actions were justified and appropriate? MichMan Jun 2023 #5
The incident has been widely reported. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #9
Regardless of this situation, check out what Fire really is NoRethugFriends Jun 2023 #12
OMG!1!!! They're pro-drag queen1!!11!!111! mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #13
Did you read the full article?? NoRethugFriends Jun 2023 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #15
My gosh. Completely out f control. Get her away from children immediately. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #2
Unfortunately that professor The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #7
Follow the money NoRethugFriends Jun 2023 #16
I don't think that's going to help her case. Dr. Strange Jun 2023 #17
True. NoRethugFriends Jun 2023 #18

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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,962 posts)
9. The incident has been widely reported.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

{As I should have posted in a reply to this post to begin with}

Google News is your friend.

https://news.google.com/search?q=machete%20attack%20hunter%20college&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Or, if that's not enough for you,

https://www.google.com/search?q=machete+attack+hunter+college

The hit count is up to about 1,530,000 results.

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,962 posts)
13. OMG!1!!! They're pro-drag queen1!!11!!111!
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:21 PM
Jun 2023
The First Amendment Retweeted

“Freedom of speech is not just about speech. It is also about the right to debate with fellow citizens on self-government, to discover the truth in the marketplace of ideas, to express one’s identity, and to realize self-fulfillment in a free society.”



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jimfields33

(18,895 posts)
2. My gosh. Completely out f control. Get her away from children immediately.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:55 AM
Jun 2023

She’s a menace to society. Attempted murder for a disagreement? Wow!

NoRethugFriends

(2,997 posts)
16. Follow the money
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jun 2023

FIRE has received major funding from groups which primarily support conservative and libertarian causes, including the Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, and the Charles Koch Institute.[

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