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Bucky

(55,334 posts)
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:08 PM Jun 2021

I wonder why so many scholars of Islam pronounce Caliph as 'CAY-liff' & not 'cah-LEEF'

Have I been saying it wrong all these years? I'm asking as World History teacher for over 20 years. I've always assumed it was just a British eccentricity, like the way they mispronounce "con-TRAH-vuh-see" or "SHED-jule" (don't even remind me what they do to "Junta'')

But recently I've see a few videos on YouTube where accredited scholars, normal American scholars mind you, some of Middle Eastern origin, use this sure-sounds-eurocentric pronunciation of "CAY-liff" for Caliph. Does anyone here know what's the correct way to say this? (I seriously don't need to repeat my infamous "purrogative" incident of 2003)

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I wonder why so many scholars of Islam pronounce Caliph as 'CAY-liff' & not 'cah-LEEF' (Original Post) Bucky Jun 2021 OP
I guess the same reason they Eye-ran instead of Ear-rahn. LakeArenal Jun 2021 #1
Heavens, don't forget Eye-rack for Ear-rock. LOL. Ilsa Jun 2021 #2
Eye-see Bucky Jun 2021 #5
Try Kay-lif. brush Jun 2021 #3
I have. It still feels badly westernized Bucky Jun 2021 #4

Ilsa

(62,239 posts)
2. Heavens, don't forget Eye-rack for Ear-rock. LOL.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jun 2021

Even Rachel Maddow says Moscow (ow) vs Moscōw, but both versions are in the dictionary.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
4. I have. It still feels badly westernized
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jun 2021

The Wikipedia pronunciation file of "khalifa" sounds more like ah than ay

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