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mahatmakanejeeves

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Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:32 AM Jun 2024

On this day, "JFK gave best speech of his life, {June 10, 1963}, at American University:"

JFK gave best speech of his life, sixty years ago today, at American University:
“If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. . . .
"We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal."





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On this day, "JFK gave best speech of his life, {June 10, 1963}, at American University:" (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2024 OP
JFK outlined a plan to curb nuclear arms and a route for world peace. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #1
Also Kennedy's decision on October 2, 1963, to begin the withdrawal of U.S. forces from South Vietnam. sop Jun 2024 #2
Yes. After the assassination, LBJ said "Let them have their war." Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #3
JFK realized that he was being lied to about Vietnam Botany Jun 2024 #4
The day he was asassinated is burned into my psyche. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #5
I totally Get that... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #8
JFK was just getting started. Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #6
TY. I was 10 when JFK was assassinated. I knew it was a bad thing to do, but it would be... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #7

Irish_Dem

(57,591 posts)
1. JFK outlined a plan to curb nuclear arms and a route for world peace.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:41 AM
Jun 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University_speech#:~:text=Widely%20considered%20one%20of%20the,In%20the%20speech%2C%20Kennedy%20announced

Widely considered one of the most powerful speeches Kennedy delivered, he not only outlined a plan to curb nuclear arms, but also "laid out a hopeful, yet realistic route for world peace at a time when the U.S. and Soviet Union faced the potential for an escalating nuclear arms race."

In the speech, Kennedy announced his agreement to negotiations "toward early agreement on a comprehensive test ban treaty" (which resulted in the Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty) and also announced, for the purpose of showing "good faith and solemn convictions", his decision to unilaterally suspend all U.S. atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons as long as all other nations would do the same. Noteworthy are his comments that the United States was seeking a goal of "complete disarmament" of nuclear weapons and his vow that America "will never start a war".


The world might be a different place if JFK had lived and been successful with this plan.

I believe this speech may have been a part of why he was murdered months later.

sop

(11,207 posts)
2. Also Kennedy's decision on October 2, 1963, to begin the withdrawal of U.S. forces from South Vietnam.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:06 AM
Jun 2024

Botany

(72,485 posts)
4. JFK realized that he was being lied to about Vietnam
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 07:05 AM
Jun 2024

By 1962 he knew the #s were not adding up because even though the body
counts kept getting bigger for the Communists more and more kept showing
up.

electric_blue68

(18,044 posts)
8. I totally Get that...
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 10:41 PM
Jun 2024

It's the way I feel about Bobby Kennedy.

The difference for me beyond the sheer fact of the shock of murdering a President - was I wasn't old enough to understand what we'd lost till later.
With RFK I knew.

Kid Berwyn

(18,014 posts)
6. JFK was just getting started.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 08:37 AM
Jun 2024
50 years ago today:
JFK’s speech at American University
calling for an end to the Cold War


10 June 2013
by David Ratcliffe

Excerpt...

Eight months before, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, John Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev had narrowly averted causing a nuclear war that would have made Earth into a radioactive wasteland. JFK was looking for a way out of the arms race and the untenable Cold War. From October 1962 to November 1963 the President was turning towards peace with an accelerating series of initiatives. As Jim Douglass writes in JFK and the Unspeakable:

To work his way out of the arms race (and free from the kind of dilemma that arose from his science advisor knowing more about nuclear war, even its strategy, than his Defense Secretary), Kennedy decided to create a series of peace initiatives. He began with the American University address, the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, National Security Action Memorandum 263 withdrawing U.S. troops from Vietnam, and a covert dialogue with Fidel Castro.

During his final months in office, he went further. Compelled by the near-holocaust of the Missile Crisis, he tried to transcend the government’s (and his own) disastrous Cold War assumptions by taking a visionary stand for general and complete disarmament.

On May 6, 1963, President Kennedy issued National Security Action Memorandum Number 239, ordering his principal national security advisers to pursue both a nuclear test ban and a policy of general and complete disarmament. . . .

Marcus Raskin has commented on the meaning of this document: “The President said, ‘Look we’ve really got to figure out how to get out of this arms race. This is just impossible. Give me a plan, the first stage at least of how we’re going to get out of the arms race.’

“This would be a 30% cut of arms. Then move from that stage to the next stage. He was into that. There’s no question about it.”651

In the three paragraphs of NSAM 239, Kennedy uses the phrase “general and complete disarmament” four times—twice in the opening paragraph, once each in the final two paragraphs. It is clearly the central focus of the order he is issuing.

The president’s accompanying, secondary emphasis is on “a nuclear test ban treaty,” which he mentions three times. It is his secondary focus that shows just how strongly he is committed to to NSAM 239’s higher priority, general and complete disarmament. For we know that in the three months after NSAM 239 was issued, JFK concentrated his energy on negotiating a nuclear test ban agreement with Khrushchev, a goal he accomplished.`

General and complete disarmament is the more ambitious project in which he says he wants immediate steps to be taken: “an urgent re-examination of the possibilities of new approaches to significant measures short of general and complete disarmament,” such as the 30 percent cut in arms mentioned by Raskin.

In his American University address the following month, he reiterates: “Our primary long-range interest [in the Geneva talks] is general and complete disarmament—designed to take place by stages, permitting parallel political developments to build the new institutions of peace which would take the place of arms.652

The American University address and the test ban treaty opened the door to the long-range project that was necessary for the survival of humanity in the nuclear age. The test ban treaty was JFK’s critically important way to initiate with Khrushchev the end of the Cold War and their joint leadership in the United Nations for the redemptive process of general and complete disarmament.

In NSAM 239, Kennedy said why he was prepared to pursue such a radical program: “the events of the last two years have increased my concerns for the consequences of an un-checked continuation of the arms race between ourselves and the Soviet bloc.”

Having been shaken and enlightened by the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy had the courage to recognize, as head of the most disastrously armed nation in history, that humanity could not survive the nuclear age unless the United States was willing to lead the world to general and complete disarmament.

“You believe in redemption don’t you?” Kennedy said to his Quaker visitors. As usual, his irony told the truth and doubled back on himself. Ted Sorenson observed that when it came to disarmament, “The President underwent a degree of redemption himself.”653


President Kennedy's address at American University is as timely today as it was half a century ago. It expresses the way we must go if we are to survive as a species. In telling the story of John Kennedy in JFK and The Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, Douglass recounts the tranformational story of the strategy of peace pursued by a President of the United States that is ever more relevant today for current generations to take up the torch of and rededicate our lives and the future of all to.

Continues...

https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JFKatAUjubilee.html

Peace. Justice. Equality. Cooperation. Progress. Look how far we've moved from these themes in the 61 years since they were outlined at American University.

electric_blue68

(18,044 posts)
7. TY. I was 10 when JFK was assassinated. I knew it was a bad thing to do, but it would be...
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jun 2024

some years before I began to understood what we lost. (I knew what we lost w Sen RFK)

I must have read his American U speech in the late 90's. Then I saw the film of it in the '10s on line.
Between The Mob, and US Military Super Hawks I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway while not able to find on line there was an article or radio piece by someone perhaps by
a theologian, or a religious official called "the metanoia of JFK"
A word I'd never heard of before.

Oxford dictionary:
a change in life resulting from penitence or spiritual conversion

While not penitence, nor spiritual in the religious sense the man looked into The ABYSS and drew back
He, and Premier Kruscheyf in the end - had the fate of The World in their hands.

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