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For the what it's worth catagory, I have had a great deal of luck finding family, ancestors, etc., on Face Book. I am subscribed to several famly and county groups, and have gotten in touch with lots of cousins I didn't even know I had.
If you're interested, just use the FB search feature for genealogy and/or add state, county, or surname. My groups are Alleghany, Botetourt, Craig, and Halifax counties of Va., Va. genealogy, WVa Gen., Marshall Co, WVA, and surnames are: Blair, Craft, Caldwell, Elmore, Hancock, Huffman, Leach, Harris, Robinson, Terrill, etc. It really helps to be working with all the cousins on these family groups.
One of the Caldwell cousins found a Chancery Court Record for Craig Co, Caldwell v. Caldwell that proved the existence of a 10th child for my gg. grandparents, Benjamin Richard and Sarah Becker Craft! Needless to say, it was a great discovery and cleared up the mystery of the 1860 census which listed a Susan Craft, age 30, with Alice and Ida (6 and 3). As far as we knew, there was no daughter named Susan, so we had no idea who this person was and/or how/if she was related. As it turned out, the father of the children was a Caldwell, and was the petitioner for the Caldwell v. Caldwell case!
Hope all of you will have as much luck with FB genealogy as I have. Happy hunting!
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)are having good luck with finding relatives on Facebook genealogy pages...
I joined a French Canadian group and am feeling frustrated at not seeing any of my own family names.
And here in the DU genealogy group it mostly seems to be English ancestors
No Vested Interest
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or became anglicized.
Then there are the "dit" names, which sometimes replaced the original surname.
All of which makes it difficult to verify a relationship.
I've had some problems in genealogy because of that, though I haven't tried Facebook for genealogy as yet.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)that really throw people for a loop!
I recently learned that my maiden name was something entirely different in France, and was not Degre' or anything close to it. It was Legoues.
Then on my mother's side, one of her ancestors, a Brillion, gave that name, which was his wife's surname, to their children. His surname was actually Regnier.
When I first started the family search stuff in 2007, it never occurred to me that my ancestors would do that sort of thing (those bastards! ha ha).
Plus, they didn't just come here and stay. They made many trips back and forth between Canada and France, then between Canada and Upstate NY, so that some kids were born in different places from their siblings.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)then cross-posted to the county groups that related to where my ancestors had lived. Got lots of feedback, photos, info, new cousins, etc. You might want to start your own family group page and see what happens. I posted my as _________ family of Botetourt and Craig Counties, Va. Also listed the exact lines I was researching.
One of my paternal gg grandmothers was born in Canada. Her mother's name was Nancy Judge, but the line is a brick wall at that point. Any recommendations as to where I could look for her? They were in Ontario.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)a clue as to how to find your Judge ancestor. Is it possible she might have been adopted?
I'm having the same sort of trouble with my mom's paternal side. She always thought her dad was adopted, but it turned out that his father was adopted. The most I can gather from my uncle (mom's bro) is that the name was originally "Ayre" or "Ayer" before his grandfather was adopted.
Sometimes the family mysteries are a real pain in the neck
grasswire
(50,130 posts)If that's any help.
I have a brick wall in Ontario too. Weingarden. Can't get past my ggrandfather.
I was amazed at how many groups there were. This should be interesting.
No Vested Interest
(5,196 posts)Do you just put in the last name?
What do you do when the last name is very common? There a number of friends I cannot locate if their surname is a common one, let alone unknown relatives.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)put in genealogy + family name or county/state, or just use "genealogy". You'll get lots of hits. Also, sometimes I just google (not FB) something like " the ___Family of Co/State. Amazing to see what comes up!
No Vested Interest
(5,196 posts)I have used ancestry.com's facebook attachment to make available genealogical info to younger, out-of-town relatives who wouldn't have other means of knowing about their forebears.
PatSeg
(49,724 posts)I have found information just by using Google.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)I found my great grandfather on there. Seems he was a well-known judge in Texas during his day. His house has been restored and there is an entire website devoted to him.
Found him on a simple internet search -- Name with date of death and there he was, picture and all.
My late brother was going bald. Bald doesn't run in my late father's side of the family; never knew about my mother being she was adopted until recently (the great grandfather I found was her grandfather -- mission accomplished for me; finding out WHO my mother was!!).
However, said great grandfather was about half bald. Now I know where that came from!
I frankly do not care for Fakebook at all and furthermore, (especially after finding out today that someone has gone and taken pictures of the graves of my grandparents that I certainly knew; who did this anyway?). My family was a small one and I've yet to find anyone looking for me.
I plan to not renew my ancestry.com acct. I'm done for now I'd say.
Too much bad info. and the story thing is a nightmare IMO.
PatSeg
(49,724 posts)and document the headstones. It often helps other searchers who are unable to do so.
I what you mean about the bad info. I've learned to check for citations and resources, as many people just copy what they find on another tree. It can be a big chore to undo a mistake that has touched many generations, so I try to be sure what I'm adding is credible.
That is really great that you found out about your mother's family. Adoption and all its secrets can really screw things up. Opening those doors is especially rewarding. Everyone deserves to know their roots.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)I figured out WHO took those pictures of my grandfather and grandma's graves. They are both buried in Golden Gate National Cemetery in San Bruno, CA being my grandfather was a WWI veteran.
In any event, I checked the person out that did this and it is someone closely related to my first cousin, an old decrepit nosey, greedy woman that I have nothing to do with. She hated my father and my grandfather and when I told her my Dad had passed away she replied, "Oh good!".
She also bilked me out of a load of money in 1975 as my grandma had left me enough money to go to college, money I never received. Said "cousin" lied like a dog and swore as a witness in writing that my grandma had left no will. I have this document I also have my grandma's will stating that she wanted what money she had to go to my brother and me to attend college!
Maybe I should POST that will on ancestry.com!
Angers me something fierce ever since I found that will (after my mother died). I've been wanting to go after her for perjury as you can just bet that she got a cut out of that deal from my late uncle, the one that the lie began with. My grandmother was her aunt -- that is the connection.
As for the adoption, I got lucky on that one as most old records in Louisiana do not exist due to fires that have occurred over time, especially anything at all to do with an adoption, much less a mixed-race adoption (my mother was part Native American and was adopted by a member of the tribe that she too was affiliated with are my findings).
I found mother's first cousin and sent her a Christmas card and she called me on the phone and she knew that my mother was for real but was unaware of the fact that her aunt had borne a child out of wedlock in the 1920s so it was a slight shock. Said cousin has written an entire book about this family, a very old American family.
That was my mission and the yield is tremendous. I've traced mother back TEN generations and I too "qualify" to be a DAR should I care to do so but I do not; DAR = Daughters of the American Revolution which is a big deal to some women out there it seems.
Anyway, back to the pictures of the graves, at least I figured it out. I suspect the only reason those pictures were taken of the graves of my father's parents -- it is because my grandma was the aunt said old decrepit cousin and she has no pictures of her, that much I know (she wanted one and I hung-up on her).
PatSeg
(49,724 posts)took the cemetery pictures because she had no photos of your grandparents possibly for her own tree. She sounds like a real charmer, but guess all families have a few of those. Can't believe she had the nerve to call you and ask for pictures.
You really were lucky to have been able to connect with your mother's family. I know I didn't find my father's family until I was in my 50's and being the last name was very common, it was a miracle. Now his family has quite an extensive branch on my tree. I already had a lot of data on my mother's ancestry because I was adopted by my maternal aunt. There are quite a few genealogists in my mother's family and the first one started searching back in the twenties. It really gave me a huge head start.
So have you seen or read the book written by the cousin? That is a genealogist's dream come true.
CountAllVotes
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She wrote it in the 1990s I believe (the research began in the late 1970s). She is now in her 80's and bears the same rather unusual middle name as my late mother changed hers too which is "Nel". There was also an aunt that had the same first name as my mother too.
The surname was a common one and it was given to my mother at birth as her middle name which was changed to "Nel" later as my mother thought it to be a boy's name and didn't like that; hence Nel. It was that middle name being shown on mother's semi-bogus birth certificate I have that sealed the deal with my cousin in Indiana being that name was the surname of my mother's mother and also her own mother's surname.
My mother was part Cherokee and that is why she was given her mother's surname. The Cherokee follow the matrilineal line, hence the reason my mother was given that middle name; the surname of her real mother. That cinched it for me and as for my cousin, she had some idea about Indian blood but has yet to face it sadly.
I asked my cousin if she was surprised and she said, "No not really". She went on to tell me of the aunt I mention above and how they never knew she existed until she was quite old (like 70+ years). The aunt had all of these pictures and gave them to her, complete with rather extensive notes, all of which are now part of the book she wrote. I've encouraged her to have it published but she won't respond on that idea. It is over 100 pgs. long and needs some editing (like adding my mother to it!).
Said old aunt found lived to be 96; my cousin's mother (my other aunt I never knew) lived to be 94. My grandmother only lived to be 63 however. Too bad she didn't live in to her 90s like the other two as maybe we'd have found her. Seems she was living in New Orleans the entire time married to a man she'd known for years (according to my cousin in Indiana) and bore no children via him. He likely knew of the adoption of her sole child that no one ever spoke of. My findings indicate that the people that adopted her knew my mother's real parents as the brother of her foster father in found in the 1900 census living up the street from them in a small town in Missouri where they used to go every year to "pick cotton" I was told by my cousin.
That is why my cousin knew I was for real and she sent me a copy of her book, complete with pictures. It was indeed a genealogist's dream come true -- the whole thing!
I'll never forget it, she called me on Christmas Eve in 2008 and said, "Hello, this is your cousin in Indiana calling." I almost fell over. She sends me a Christmas card every year and she has email too!
and now as for that liar of a cousin I have ...
Either she herself or one of her nieces/nephews took the picture of my oh so hated grandfather's grave. I'll never get over my still brewing anger that I have against that decrepit woman after what she has said and done. My father told me many years ago when I asked about her that she was, "Just plain no good." He tended not to say things like that about people, esp. relatives. He was right, she is "Plain no good" indeed.
She is very well off owning property a plenty in the San Francisco bay area. However, she also owes me close to $100K and owes my brother $100K too the way I figure it, being she perjured herself to assure we'd never receive what grandma wanted us to have; money to go to college with.
I have a picture of grandma's parents that were born in Germany. It appears to be a wedding photo, one of those old tin pictures taken in the 1880s or so I'd guess. I'm sure she does not have a copy of that!
I kind of hate ancestry.com these days needless to say. I'd have found my mother without them really being I've been searching for her identity (as had my late mother) for many many years and was very close to finding out the truth at the time mother passed away (2001). Her real mother appears in the 1930 census in the city my mother was born in, so yes, I'd have found her soon enough. It is too bad that the 1930 census wasn't released quite yet when she passed away.
I swore on mother's death bed that I'd find out who she is. She wanted to know how I'd go about doing this. I told her, I did not know but I would never stop searching until I found out!
Mission accomplished I'd say eh?
PatSeg
(49,724 posts)People who are not affected by adoption, don't realize how important it is to know one's roots. It doesn't matter what kind of roots those might be, good, bad, or mediocre. Knowing the truth is 100 times better than living through one's imagination. "What she don't know won't hurt her" was the common attitude for a long time. Just sweep it all under the rug and move on.
Fortunately I was able to find out a lot without the help of my adopted parents (aunt and uncle), but we all know they took secrets to the grave and there are still things I will never know. I did end up finding a brother through a message board on Ancestry.com and learned more about my father and his other children. Just a few years ago I found out where and when my mother died, though I never found out what happened between the time she left and when she died.
It is incredible how much we can find today that would have been impossible years ago.
CountAllVotes
(21,068 posts)I'm really glad that you know and also, really even happier to know that you found your brother! That is great!!
I'm with you on this one.
It is the cruelest thing that can be done to a person by not telling them who they are. They have every right to know and as you put it, it doesn't matter what it is. You just want to know!
And, yes, you are right again, today it is a lot easier to find out than it was in the past when people would say just about anything to be rid of you with your *questions* so to speak.
Best of luck with your research as it continues on ... mine likely will anyway as now I have some people that are contacting me (father's side of the family). Just recently I heard from my relatives in Ireland I never knew I had. They live in Kilkenny and they were hoping to find that relative "said to be on the west coast somewhere" that left Ireland during the Great Famine years.
Well, they found me and I have two new cousins that found me now, one in Massachusetts and one in New Jersey!
Cheers!
PatSeg
(49,724 posts)People rarely find roots from those who left Ireland during the famine years. Records were rarely kept on the very poor Irish, not even church records. I guess they weren't considered entirely human at the time.
That is so exciting!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I immediately found a group of cousins!
I've had so much fun with my "FB" cousins, most of whom I've never met in real life, and have gotten very close to them. Hope you have as much fun as I'm having.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)ttp://www.scribd.com/doc/155110120/Genealogy-on-Facebook. Happy hunting!