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Taverner

(55,476 posts)
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:17 PM May 2013

I have gotta control my drinking

This is day two without alcohol. Sleeping is almost impossible, and I am tormented with nervous energy.

The best way to control your drinking is to quit completely for some time - get your body used to no alcohol

See, I was drinking about 1/4 of a bottle of scotch a night

Not a ton, but enough to get physically dependent

From what I've read I should detox for at least as long as I have been drinking, if not more

That's about 4 years

I can do it

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I have gotta control my drinking (Original Post) Taverner May 2013 OP
You can do it. NYC_SKP May 2013 #1
It's a lot of things: work situation (been bad since 2010)... Taverner May 2013 #2
Get headphones and some tunes and walk it off. NYC_SKP May 2013 #7
Pls. monitor your blood pressure.... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #9
I noticed at the gym when I exercised my HR was in the 150s Taverner May 2013 #10
i detoxed at home NMDemDist2 May 2013 #13
^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^ n/t NMDemDist2 May 2013 #11
Should I head to the ER? Taverner May 2013 #15
no reason to go to ER unless dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #17
420 makes mine chill, as long as it is indica Taverner May 2013 #20
that is literally detox happening...the sweats... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #21
Ah true - there is no future - only now Taverner May 2013 #22
My favorite birthday card dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #23
sleep disruption is normal NMDemDist2 May 2013 #3
Cool 72 hours Taverner May 2013 #5
sugar NMDemDist2 May 2013 #8
Sugar! Got a Throwback Pepsi right here! Taverner May 2013 #12
perfect! NMDemDist2 May 2013 #14
Short of Ativan or such, herb is very helpful dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #16
See you on the other side GeoWilliam750 May 2013 #4
And the cost savings...the feeling like shit... Taverner May 2013 #6
the knowing it controls you and you want to be back in control of your life.... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #18
Well that was fun for a while, actually, but it got old Taverner May 2013 #19
Good luck and, if it helps, know there are a lot of us out here mountain grammy May 2013 #24
Heard at an AA meeting: "I can control my drinking, or I can enjoy my drinking, but I can't do both" progree Jun 2013 #25
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. You can do it.
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:19 PM
May 2013

Please try to identify triggers that disrupt you, for some it's family tension, for others, well who knows.

Allow yourself to eat something instead.

Be mindful that any amount is too much.

I could go on, I don't want to preach, just do what your body and soul are telling you to do and knock it off.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
2. It's a lot of things: work situation (been bad since 2010)...
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:22 PM
May 2013

Not to mention that having kids, even 10 years later, terrifies the shit out of me

I love them and that's why I feel this way

And, the chief trigger - - boredom

When I am involved in something my mind is off of it

I never want a drink at the gym, or while I'm driving, or while I'm working

I could get over the cravings - that's just a mind game

It's the withdrawals that are killing me

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. Get headphones and some tunes and walk it off.
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:30 PM
May 2013

Not to say the solution is that simple, but it might be.

Depression is countered with physical activity, and boredom is by definition a lack of activity.

Walk. If it's raining then walk in the rain in a rain coat.

Or something else.

Don't be sedentary.

You can do it!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
9. Pls. monitor your blood pressure....
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:32 PM
May 2013

withdrawal can be dangerous, given multiple indiv. factors.
If it gets too high, you need to seek help.
3rd and 4th day are usually the toughest.

Ya know, in all my years in Sub. Abuse Treatment work, the single most common issue that clients identified was
"boredom".
what they meant was when they did have nothing to occupy their minds, they tended to sit around and worry and get anxious and restless.
Which is a problem that gets addressed in the recovery phase.

You have taken the biggest step, in that you recognized you were in a drinking pattern that is problamatic for you.
And that having withdrawals is indeed a sign of dependence.

I am SO wishing you luck.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
10. I noticed at the gym when I exercised my HR was in the 150s
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:33 PM
May 2013

Usually I get it to 130...so I had to go slower

NMDemDist2

(49,314 posts)
13. i detoxed at home
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:35 PM
May 2013

at one point my BP was 235/185

yes. that isn't a typo. I didn't stroke out, but i could have. Alcohol detox is the only detox that can KILL you. so watch your blood pressure. and a bad head ache that doesn't ease up is a red flag.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
15. Should I head to the ER?
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:50 PM
May 2013

I will be doing a fasting blood test tomorrow morning...so if something is dangerous they might tell me

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
17. no reason to go to ER unless
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:17 PM
May 2013

you are having severe headache, very rapid pulse or very HBP.
But DO tell staff tomorrow that you are on Day x of abruptly (important word) abstaining from ETOH:
you are having ETOH withdrawal symptoms, including insomnia, anxiety, ( sweats????) anything else you notice.

420 makes some people's heart beat faster.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
20. 420 makes mine chill, as long as it is indica
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:34 PM
May 2013

sativa, different story

sweats all night - covers on and I sweat, covers off and I shiver

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
21. that is literally detox happening...the sweats...
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:52 PM
May 2013

feel free to take an many warm showers or hot baths as you feel like..
sorta our american version of a sweat lodge purification.


See if helps just to observe what your body is doing, and listen to it and focus on NOW, pull your thoughts away from
"futuring" when you notice that happening.
A nice gentle Zen approach, it really really helps.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
22. Ah true - there is no future - only now
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:54 PM
May 2013

However, quantum physics suggests there is no past, only future....

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
23. My favorite birthday card
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:57 PM
May 2013

on the outside it says:

Happy Zen birthday..
there is no past
there is no furture

and on the inside it says:
"there is no present".

NMDemDist2

(49,314 posts)
3. sleep disruption is normal
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:24 PM
May 2013

as is the nervous energy.

they will pass, but not quickly without medical intervention. I think it was a few weeks before i started sleeping again for any length of time.

you have done a lot already Tav, this is just the next thing. look for online real time sobriety communities. In the Rooms is a good one, deals with all the 'isms' ( http://www.intherooms.com/ )

the worst of it is the first 72 hours, so you're almost home.

hang in there, reach out, take it a heartbeat at a time.



edit to add, eat some sugar. candy, ice cream, cake anything with real sugar. it will help a LOT with the cravings.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
5. Cool 72 hours
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:26 PM
May 2013

I cannot lie, 420 has helped me

But I do not need to control my 420 - I need to control my drinking

NMDemDist2

(49,314 posts)
8. sugar
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:30 PM
May 2013

see my edit.

sugar REALLY helps the jitters.

Fear, Fellowship and a high sugar diet kept me sober the first 3 months I think.

21 years (and 25 pounds) later, i'm still sober

NMDemDist2

(49,314 posts)
14. perfect!
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:37 PM
May 2013

i have had friends who had a daily ritual of their 1/2 pint Ben & Jerrys or milkshake.

it really does help

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
16. Short of Ativan or such, herb is very helpful
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:51 PM
May 2013

try to do orange juice, fruit juice, anything high in natural sugar.
reason is, your body turns alcohol into sugar, and your body becomes used to a certain amount of it, and is craving the source it is familiar with.
You can deal with sugar reduction later down the road, right now abstinence from booze is the goal.

mountain grammy

(27,274 posts)
24. Good luck and, if it helps, know there are a lot of us out here
Fri May 31, 2013, 11:49 PM
May 2013

who don't even know you but are keeping you in our thoughts. Here's to recovery!

progree

(11,463 posts)
25. Heard at an AA meeting: "I can control my drinking, or I can enjoy my drinking, but I can't do both"
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sat Jun 1, 2013, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

I found that when I managed to control it, I wasn't enjoying it, I just wanted more. Anyway, so true for me. I keep it in my head as an acronym "CoEnBo" - for Control Enjoy Both. YMMV.

(On Edit I should say this doesn't apply to many A.A.-ers -- some are not capable of ANY controlled drinking sessions. As for me, I was able to, *sometimes*, but none of those controlled sessions were ones that I remembered with any particular positive feelings -- they were kind of blah, particularly having the enjoyable feelings of a minor buzz being cancelled out by the desire for the next one).

Another one: If I have the 1st drink, I'll want the 2nd drink more than the first. And the 3rd drink more than the second. And and ... Acronym: 1 < 2 < 3 < ...

Good luck!



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