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appalachiablue

(44,205 posts)
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:29 PM 16 hrs ago

At Least 80% Responsibility For Ill Health In Old Age Down To Individual, Oxford Study Says, Others Disagree

- 'At least 80% responsibility for ill health in old age down to individual, study says,' The Guardian, May 20, 2026. Ed. - UK report argues people have greater control over longevity than widely understood, but others say claim is simplistic
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Individuals bear at least 80% of the responsibility for their ill health in old age, according to a report aimed at challenging the belief that physical decline is either inevitable or primarily the responsibility of the state. The report, launched at the Smart Ageing Summit in Oxford last week, argues that individuals have far greater control over their longevity than is commonly understood.

The authors call on the government to take legislative action on alcohol comparable to restrictions on smoking.

Living Longer, Better – the Oxford Longevity Project’s first Age-less report – was co-authored by an interdisciplinary panel of UK-based experts in medicine, physiology, ageing and education policy. It was sponsored by Oxford Healthspan. The report’s authors, Sir Christopher Ball, Sir Muir Gray, Dr Paul Ch’en, Leslie Kenny and Prof Denis Noble, present the figure of 80% as a conservative estimate.

Ball, a 91-year-old former Parachute regiment officer who intends to reach 100, said: “Some have gone higher and said it’s approaching 90%. But I think 80% seems about fair.” The claim, however, has been described as simplistic and said to neglect wider arguments about whether people are genuinely in control of individual choices when it comes to issues including poverty, pollution and healthcare access.

Nancy Krieger, professor of social epidemiology at Harvard TH Chan school of public health, said: “The report is to be commended for rejecting genetic determinism but it problematically avoids engaging with the societal determination of health and health inequities; the role of work, economic deprivation and government policies that give corporations free rein to sell unhealthy products.” Steven Woolf, professor and director of the VCU Center on Society and Health, agreed, saying the paper “ignores and oversimplifies the actual, multilayered root causes of the conditions that foster poor health in a population”... More,

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/may/20/responsibility-ill-health-old-age-oxford-longevity-project-study

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At Least 80% Responsibility For Ill Health In Old Age Down To Individual, Oxford Study Says, Others Disagree (Original Post) appalachiablue 16 hrs ago OP
Well if you ignore genetics and environmental toxins you might get that idea JT45242 16 hrs ago #1
These pollutants are a huge factor that can't be ignored, incl many plastics. Tx for posting. appalachiablue 16 hrs ago #4
So now we have "the undeserving sick?" -misanthroptimist 16 hrs ago #2
IK, it's heartless. appalachiablue 16 hrs ago #5
Wonder if Smilo 16 hrs ago #3
Very good points, thanks. Reckless study. appalachiablue 16 hrs ago #6
While alcohol, tobacco and recreational drug use are major contributors to ill health Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #7
Well said, use education first.. appalachiablue 14 hrs ago #8
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue 14 hrs ago #9

JT45242

(4,142 posts)
1. Well if you ignore genetics and environmental toxins you might get that idea
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:37 PM
16 hrs ago

Somehow I doubt that you could do due a good multi factor analysis since many of the known carcinogens and other mildly today were thought to be harmless for most of the elderly alive today.

Carbon tetrachloride was no big deal when I was in my teens. Big deal today. Glycophosphate herbicides. Teflon, forever chemicals, etc.

Exposure to lead, arsenic, and other heavy metals not a personal choice. Downwind of factory spewing crap into the air or dumping organohalide compounds into the ground water not a personal choice either.

appalachiablue

(44,205 posts)
4. These pollutants are a huge factor that can't be ignored, incl many plastics. Tx for posting.
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:51 PM
16 hrs ago

Smilo

(2,059 posts)
3. Wonder if
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:47 PM
16 hrs ago

they took into account all those working jobs that are tough on the body or minimum wage. Or those who are living in run down, poorly maintained homes. Or those working two or three jobs to put food on the table.

Somehow I don't think so.

Yes, the NHS is available to all, but you have to be able to get to see a doctor, not always possible if you can't get time off or have no transport.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,144 posts)
7. While alcohol, tobacco and recreational drug use are major contributors to ill health
Fri May 22, 2026, 01:14 PM
16 hrs ago

And under at least initial control of the individual, as others have pointed out, the report ignores a multitude of other factors beyond an individual’s control.

Not sure how they arrived at the figure of 80%, but I’m not sure it’s useful. Instead, educating people, especially children about the effect of healthy and unhealthy choices, and then providing economic and medical support in making those healthy choices seems like a more helpful approach.

And then, of course, working to mitigate all the environmental factors contributing to ill health.

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #7)

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