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Related: About this forumHelp your heart by eating ice cream. Wait, what?
Last summer, I got a tip about a curious scientific finding. Im sorry, it cracks me up every time I think about this, my tipster said.
Back in 2018, a Harvard doctoral student named Andres Ardisson Korat was presenting his research on the relationship between dairy foods and chronic disease to his thesis committee. One of his studies had led him to an unusual conclusion: Among diabetics, eating half a cup of ice cream a day was associated with a lower risk of heart problems. Needless to say, the idea that a dessert loaded with saturated fat and sugar might actually be good for you raised some eyebrows at the nations most influential department of nutrition.
Earlier, the department chair, Frank Hu, had instructed Ardisson Korat to do some further digging: Could his research have been led astray by an artifact of chance, or a hidden source of bias, or a computational error? As Ardisson Korat spelled out on the day of his defense, his debunking efforts had been largely futile. The ice-cream signal was robust.
It was robust, and kind of hilarious. I do sort of remember the vibe being like, Hahaha, this ice-cream thing wont go away; thats pretty funny, recalled my tipster, whod attended the presentation. This was obviously not what a budding nutrition expert or his super-credentialed committee members were hoping to discover. He and his committee had done, like, every type of analysisthey had thrown every possible test at this finding to try to make it go away. And there was nothing they could do to make it go away.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/05/ice-cream-bad-for-you-health-study/673487
Srkdqltr
(7,661 posts)Of course if one is lactose intolerant one can't/shouldn't anyway.
dweller
(25,052 posts)I inherited the ice cream gene from my dad
Without Ice Cream, there would be Darkness and Chaos
✌🏻
BComplex
(9,078 posts)I have that same gene!
No truer words were ever spoken!
Mosby
(17,469 posts)Of how flawed medical/health research is. Medical researchers basically abuse inferential stats by conducting "studies" where nothing was actually manipulated. Then they dress up the results with nonparametric SEMs and viola they get the results they were hoping for, even if it all completely lacks experimental controls.
Eta - reverse causation happens because of bad experimental design, which results in artifacts and unchecked confounding variables.
Wonder Why
(4,589 posts)We'd die of our diabetes first!
But in any case, this gives us something to look forward to besides some convictions.
So all you naysayers - just shut up!
We diabetics love studies like this. It gives us something to tell our doctors! "I'm in a study to verify that Gelato beats heart disease."
brush
(57,517 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,541 posts)pandr32
(12,170 posts)A half a cup a day is better than none. Of course, though, I eyeball measure.
elleng
(136,071 posts)Just returned from 3-day hospital stay, and stopped @ grocery store for mangoes, banana, sweet red pepper, and pint of Ice Cream and 4 'minis!!!