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appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:23 PM Mar 2020

'Healthy Flying Tips': How Not To Get Sick On A Plane, Avoiding Pathogens

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NPR, 'How Not To Get Sick On A Plane' *Feb. 16, 2020. It's the season for colds and flus — and a newly identified respiratory disease, COVID-19. (Some useful info. for less experienced flyers).

To cut your risk of catching a respiratory illness on your next flight, experts offer two pieces of common-sense advice: Wash your hands frequently and keep a distance from people who are sick.

- Where to sit to prevent getting sick:A 2018 study suggests that to minimize contact with other passengers, you should pick a window seat and stay put. Vicki Hertzberg, a biostatistician at Emory University, co-led the study on flights and disease transmission with scientists at Boeing. "The window seats are a little less risky than the aisle seats," Hertzberg says. Statistically, people in window seats come into contact with fewer passengers because they leave their seats less often than those sitting near the aisle. And they are a few more feet from the action in the aisle, where passersby could be coughing, sneezing and spreading germs. Though really, the best place to sit is away from any passenger who's coughing or sneezing.

"There was a perimeter around the person with increased risk," Hertzberg says. "Everywhere else, the risk of getting sick was minimal." The size of the "transmission zone" depends on the specific pathogen and how it transmits.

For instance, there's a chance you could catch tuberculosis when you sit within two rows of someone infected with TB and the flight is longer than eight hours. And for SARS, a coronavirus outbreak from 2002-2003, that transmission zone likely extended to at least three rows around the sick passenger. Like the flu, the new coronavirus seems to spread mainly through close contact and respiratory droplets. The CDC recommends keeping a distance of about six feet from anyone who's been diagnosed with the flu or the new coronavirus. So if a person is coughing right next to you and the plane isn't packed, maybe just ask for another seat.

- How to prevent others from getting sick:If you're sick with a respiratory illness, wearing a mask and opening the overhead vent.

Masks, she says, should be worn by people who are infectious to catch droplets from their noses and mouths. If you don't have a mask, the World Health Organization recommends covering coughs and sneezes with tissues or flexed elbows. If you're infectious, turning on the controllable, overhead air vents — called "gaspers" — can also help contain your germs. Hertzberg says the strong force of air attracts other air into it. "You're sneezing into that draft of air, and it just immediately sucks it down to the floor," she says.

- Even though you probably won't get sick from the plane, there are additional precautions you can take:

Really, Hertzberg says, the risk of getting a respiratory infection from a plane is low. "There are very few reports of infectious disease being transmitted on airplanes," she says. In the course of her research, Hertzberg's team took more than 200 environmental swabs on 10 transcontinental U.S. flights and didn't find a single respiratory virus in the sample (though there was plenty of bacteria). The air on planes is cleaned with high-efficiency filters, and the circulation system constantly brings in fresh air. "In some aspects, the air on a plane is cleaner than what's going on in your office buildings," Hertzberg says.

- And there are behaviors that can substantially reduce your risk of catching anything.

First, drink lots of water — especially on longer flights. In-flight air has low humidity, and it dries out the mucous membranes in the nose, making them less protective against infections, says Dr. Mark Gendreau, chief medical officer at Beverly Hospital.

Second, keep your hands microbe-free...

More, https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/13/804860215/how-not-to-get-sick-on-a-plane-a-guide-to-avoiding-pathogens

*Expert Hand-washing Video, https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-51637561/coronavirus-watch-how-germs-spread

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'Healthy Flying Tips': How Not To Get Sick On A Plane, Avoiding Pathogens (Original Post) appalachiablue Mar 2020 OP
Thanks for the information catbyte Mar 2020 #1
Lucky you, Maui is beautiful I've always heard. And I know Kauai is appalachiablue Mar 2020 #3
Passengers in cattle class on a flight from China with a coughing Warpy Mar 2020 #2
Some folks here have suggested wearing mittens/gloves for face touching appalachiablue Mar 2020 #4
They quarantined 57 people from that flight for 2 weeks Warpy Mar 2020 #5
We just got back from the West Coast customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #6
Good deal & welcome back. appalachiablue Mar 2020 #7
Thanks! customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #8

catbyte

(35,772 posts)
1. Thanks for the information
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

I'm flying from Detroit to Kahului, Maui on Tuesday so this is timely. Luckily, my friend I'm going with had enough points that we could fly Delta One from Atlanta to Honolulu which has those suite-type seats with nobody sitting next to you. The other legs will be in First Class so we won't be stuffed in like sardines. I'll still be cautious, though. Thanks again.

appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
3. Lucky you, Maui is beautiful I've always heard. And I know Kauai is
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:35 PM
Mar 2020

lush and wonderful from a trip there years ago - 9 hrs. on a budget airline with cramped seats. Sounds like your arrangements are comfy and secure, have a wonderful trip with your friend and tell us all about it.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
2. Passengers in cattle class on a flight from China with a coughing
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:34 PM
Mar 2020

passenger who was confirmed as having Covid-19 didn't get ill, even though they were taking no precautions.

These days, I'd take a Clorox wipe in a baggie and use it to wipe down the seat arms and the tray table. I'd avoid touching my face with my fingers. And I'd visit a washroom to wash my hands after deplaning.

That's it.

Just not touching my face with my fingers, I've managed a lot of airline flights and caught nothing, even with obviously ill people on the flight, and some of those flights were when I was taking Imuran, Methotrexate and Prednisone, all of which pretty much knocked my immune system out for the count.

Not touching your face with your fingers is a huge deal. If the only way you can remember that is to wear a mask, then wear a mask. You probably don't need it, though, unless you are the one who is ill and trying to protect other passengers. Then definitely wear one.

appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
4. Some folks here have suggested wearing mittens/gloves for face touching
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

as well. I'd have to do that or wear a mask, for sure. This is good info, esp. about the crowded flight from China, thanks for posting.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
5. They quarantined 57 people from that flight for 2 weeks
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:47 PM
Mar 2020

and none tested positive after that time. I haven't read that any of them has tested positive after quarantine was over and I would imagine someone is following them. At least I hope someone is on the ball.

These days, as screwed up as this country is by the chaos and neglect at the top, one never knows.

(I do always sit in a window seat but I do it for the view)

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
6. We just got back from the West Coast
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020

Took some disinfectant wipes with us in a ziploc baggie, and wiped down seats, tray tables, etc.

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