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Related: About this forumThe Rape Skeptic-Todd Akin didn’t misspeak. He showed what he thinks:
Todd Akin didnt misspeak. He showed what he thinks: that rape is too broadly interpreted and reported.http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/08/todd_akin_s_apology_his_comments_on_spousal_rape_and_forcible_rape_show_mistrust_of_women_.html
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Akins track record on this issue goes back to 1991, when he was a state legislator in Missouri. At the time, Missouri was one of four states in which husbands, by definition, couldnt be prosecuted for raping their wives. A bill came to the floor of the Missouri House that would abolish this exemption, making spousal rape a crime. Akin joined 118 of 134 state representatives in voting for the bill. But during the debate, according to a contemporaneous report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (flagged two weeks ago by Sahil Kapur in Talking Points Memo), Akin warned that a law against marital rape might be abused ''in a real messy divorce as a tool and a legal weapon to beat up on the husband.''
Akin was elected to Congress in 2000. A decade later, in January 2011, he co-sponsored the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, which, among other things, would have tightened the definition of rape in U.S. abortion law. At the time, federal laws against abortion funding exempted pregnancies caused by rape. The No Taxpayer bill altered this formulation, exempting only forcible rapes. The change of language (first reported by Nick Baumann in Mother Jones) was widely condemned for excluding statutory rape and for supposedly implying that date rape wasnt really rape. Eventually, the bills sponsor removed the word forcible.
Today, this episode is being depicted on liberal blogs as a conspiracy by Akin and Paul Ryan to change the definition of rape. Thats a stretch: Akin and Ryan were among more than 160 co-sponsors of the bill. Nothing in the record suggests Akin had anything to do with the rape language, which was peripheral to the bill. But yesterday on Mike Huckabees radio show, Akin pleaded that when he referred in the KTVI interview to legitimate rape, I was talking about forcible rape. So he affirms the distinction drawn in the 2011 bill.
When you look at the three episodes side by sidethe 1991 comment about marital rape, the 2011 specification of forcible rape, the 2012 reference to legitimate rapeits hard to explain away the pattern. Nobody uses the wrong words accidentally three times in a row. But if you watch Akins whole interview on KTVI, youll see that the pattern is actually larger. He trusts some people more than others. Women who report rape are among the people he doesnt quite trust.
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The Rape Skeptic-Todd Akin didn’t misspeak. He showed what he thinks: (Original Post)
Starry Messenger
Aug 2012
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I am sick of these creeps saying what they mean, only to say they misspoke
liberal N proud
Aug 2012
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liberal N proud
(60,956 posts)1. I am sick of these creeps saying what they mean, only to say they misspoke
once what they said is deemed inappropriate by the world.
They truly expose themselves and then try to say it wasn't what they meant. I am not buying it.
Starry Messenger
(32,375 posts)2. The cruel ignorance of it all astounds me.
What they mean to say is so based in hate and bad science. How do these people get elected??
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)3. Yes, and the mainstream media are mostly ignoring this.
Akin believes what he said and I think the only way in which he misspoke was by saying it in a setting where he wasn't surrounded only by like-thinking people.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)4. It's transparent, and we all knew that he meant what he said the moment we heard or read it.
Are there any conservative males who aren't sexist on this planet?
I doubt it.