About alerting on sexism and misogyny:

[laconicsax]

When you see a sexist or misogynist post or comment, remember to check the TOS violation box, that way, when the jury votes to let the comment stand, the alert still goes one level higher. The tolerance of sexism and misogyny by admins/MIRT is far lower than that of most juries.

[seabeyond]

1. thank you.

that man was new and jumped right in with post one, denigrating women. i didnt know how you got that across when you are only allowed to do jury on one post. and that is for hide or leave, nothing about an unwelcome duer. i alert and jury allows. now what, lol. i handled it poorly. i get that. but, every step of the way, somehow, du comes thru, pretty much. and they did it this time.

i am going to go read a book.

[laconicsax]

2. I alerted on three of his posts, all were left alone.

The key is really to check the TOS box so it goes to someone whose job it is to look at more than the alerted post. So far, I've seen zero tolerance for TOS violations. Even long-time posters will get booted at the drop of a hat if they break the TOS.

[seabeyond]

3. wow. i only alerted on one

and said, meh... not gonna do any good. so obviously i was not the only one.

good to know but wow.

[iverglas]

6. unfortunately

- and we're probably not talking about the same one - there is no way to get to the malicious intruder removal team without succeeding on a jury alert.

The one I'm thinking about had no single post that would likely have made for a successful jury alert, especially given my experience with juries so far (as both alerter and alertee). The fact is still that the person is an obvious troll.

I guess I'll try alert, tick TOS (I'd been aware of this and have done it but not had any feedback from that yet; don't know whether one gets any), and put a prominent request that it also go to the MIR team.

[The empressof all]

7. The Admins see all TOS alerts

Even if the jury does not hide it the Admins will still look at it. It's critical that you explain clearly in the alert why it is sexist or offensive. As we can see from the Beauty Pagent kerfluffle...not everyone has the same experience or historical reference that some of us 2 1/2 wavers have... Honestly I'm not sure the OP member really understood what he was walking into with that.... My 21 year daughter asked me a few years ago why I never put her in pagents. Of course I asked her if she was on drugs.

[seabeyond]

9. omfg.... are you saying there are 21/2'ers, TOO. on noes!!11!!!1! i must be. why i do sex these

last decades and yet still, am a prude and anti sex.

[The empressof all]

10. ROFL...

I think there are some valid points to third way philosophy....Just as there are some interesting things about Libertarian philosophy. When you first think about it there are some things that make a lot of sense....Then you think about Somalia....that Libertarian utopia...

[seabeyond]

11. i started all this for clarity and end up with confusion. totally clueless. a young author wrote a

book.

how to use sexuality to get what you want in the work place. no holds bar, looks and behavior, use sex to get it.

is this 3rd wave? is this what they are promoting?

[redqueen]

16. I'm curious to know the answer to that as well.

There was a thread in GD which seemed to imply that women had all this 'power' because of their sexuality and they just needed to use it.

It's nothing new. The idea that men should be absolved from any responsibility for their own ethical behavior or indeed self-determination is an old saw and it's not going away anytime soon I'm sure.

[seabeyond]

18. isnt that the truth. women, use sex to control man. i couldnt believe that is what the OP

meant, but sure enough, seemed to be.

the absolute way of keeping the patriarchal imbalance. it was interesting.

[laconicsax]

8. Admins get the TOS alerts from unhidden posts.

Quartermass got PPR'd today by Skinner for his overt sexism.

[City Lights]

4. Thank you for pointing this out.

I wouldn't have thought of this, but will keep it in mind in the future.

[ZombieHorde]

5. Good advice. nt

[Liquorice]

12. Hello! I have a question about

this topic. Is there is a general consensus about that Michelle Bachmann photo of her eating the corndog? I find it extremely inappropriate and it makes me feel uneasy and unwelcomed when I see it posted here. Do others here feel this way, or is it just me?

[redqueen]

13. No, it's not just you.

I agree that it's inappropriate. I wouldn't say it makes me feel uneasy or unwelcome. I just think it's juvenile, but not in a funny way, in a pathetic way. I can't think of any male politicians who would get that type of treatment, either. Other than Silvio Berlusconi, and he would be posing in such a way intentionally, not doing something routine.

[Liquorice]

14. Thank you for your reply. I guess it makes

me feel unwelcome because it says to me that this is a place where it's okay to disrespect women. But you're right. It is very juvenile.

There's someone on the site with this photo in his signature line. I was not very surprised by that, I guess, but I am disappointed that it's apparently allowed on the DU. It's kind of sad really.

[seabeyond]

15. +1. i dont care about the picture, but it goes way beyond that.

every female politician was reduced to a fuck. so often they would find a picture, hubby standing behind her, oh noes, being fucked from behind.

reducing even our female opponent to that, always, says how misogyny and sexism is embraced.

[redqueen]

17. Oh yes, I'm very aware that it's used as a sig pic.

I've considered alerting on it but based on how that usually goes, I decided against it.