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BigmanPigman

(52,344 posts)
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:21 PM Sep 2017

Can women be misogynists?

I was discussing the election with a friend and he began telling me why he thought Hillary lost (she ran a flawed campaign). I told him, "No, it was Comey, Russia, and misogyny" in that order and of course the other factors like media coverage, social media, etc. He tried to tell me that the large number of women who voted for 45 means that I should cross "misogyny" off my list. I tried to explain that women misogynists exist in all areas and levels of our society. Is there such a thing and does it have a name?

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Can women be misogynists? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Sep 2017 OP
Definition: guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1
There are many women who don't think JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #2
Of course... Plenty of women professionals can relate to the adage that hlthe2b Sep 2017 #3
Ann Coulter comes to mind and Kellyanne Conway. demigoddess Sep 2017 #4
If you don't vote for a person because they are female, it's misogyny, no matter your gender uppityperson Sep 2017 #5
If the shoe fits... (n/t) gtar100 Sep 2017 #6
We call them "ladies who hate women" Warpy Sep 2017 #7
Yes PoorMonger Sep 2017 #8
Internalized misogyny and internalized racism both exist. JHan Sep 2017 #9
Yes, sadly. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #10

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
1. Definition:
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:23 PM
Sep 2017
noun: misogyny
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
"she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny"



The definition does not exclude women.

JenniferJuniper

(4,548 posts)
2. There are many women who don't think
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:24 PM
Sep 2017

women should be in positions of power. And not just right wing religious fundamentalists.

It's a thing, but I don't know what you'd call it. Aside from misogyny.

hlthe2b

(106,647 posts)
3. Of course... Plenty of women professionals can relate to the adage that
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:25 PM
Sep 2017

other women CAN be their worst enemy... And, yes, that is why.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
7. We call them "ladies who hate women"
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:44 PM
Sep 2017

and a lot of churches are full of them. They're rigidly patriarchal and resent being presented with real life choices. They long for the days when women were treated as perpetual children and the property of men.

I suppose they think it was easier to get into heaven that way.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
8. Yes
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 04:59 PM
Sep 2017

At least this man thinks so ; and I consider myself feminist by the same logic.

I count myself as feminist because I believe women are just as capable, valuable and worthy of respect as men. I believe that much of what feminists want is opportunity - in education, athletics and at work and a whole host of other arenas. It's not about putting one sex ahead of the other or ticking off a list of things you think men 'do better' than women or doing the same with things women 'do better' than men. It's all about equality of opportunity to pursue what drives you as an individual and not get shortchanged because of someone else's perception of you aspiration or throwing needless barriers in your way ; even and especially if they think they are doing you some kind of favor.

But in understanding that as I do , I know there are women out there who have that unfair bias against other women. I've heard it in person from women who wouldn't vote Hillary. Those same women didn't discuss the issues but let their husbands speak for them as a couple. It really is quite sad to witness in real time but it shows where that bullshit is rooted. At least in the two cases I saw it the women seemed to prefer not to have responsibility for politics and so they think it's normal. The problem is intensified when people take individuals like that as proof that it's in any way valid. Because 'some women' think like that too.

/ end rant

JHan

(10,173 posts)
9. Internalized misogyny and internalized racism both exist.
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:20 PM
Sep 2017

It's the effect of sexism and racism in society - some will internalize those ideas and perpetuate them to align themselves with members of society who enjoy more agency.

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