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tulipsandroses

(6,213 posts)
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 10:27 PM Jul 2022

Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth

Original thread in GD forum

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216946383

These cases are older cases, but I imagine that with the fall of Roe, incidents like these will be more common.

Forced Cesarean Section
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When an attorney for the hospital argued that it was appropriate to sacrifice a dying woman for her fetus, one judge replied incredulously, "Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth?"
In the most notorious incident, in 1987 administrators of George Washington University Hospital went to court to force Angela Carder, a pregnant woman ill with cancer, to undergo a cesarean section. When both she and her critically premature baby died shortly after the surgery, the c-section was listed as a contributing cause of her death.

At the age of 27, Carder had already survived two previous bouts of cancer by undergoing aggressive treatments of chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery. With her cancer in remission and optimistic about her prognosis, she married and became pregnant.

When Carder was 26 weeks pregnant, doctors discovered that her cancer had returned and metastasized. Carder, her parents, her husband, and the hospital's obstetrical staff agreed on a course of treatment aimed at keeping her alive for at least another two weeks, at which point intervention to save the fetus might be possible. According to Carder's mother, her daughter "wanted to live long enough to hold that baby." But, as Carder's condition rapidly deteriorated, hospital administrators feared she would not live that long. They rushed to court and obtained an order authorizing the hospital to perform an immediate c-section. They did so without first contacting Carder's longtime cancer specialist, who later stated that he would have testified that the operation at that point in time was "medically inadvisable both for Angela Carder and for the fetus." Fearing that neither Angela nor the fetus would survive the surgery, Carder's husband, parents, and obstetricians all opposed the c-section at 26 and a half weeks gestation; when Carder herself learned of the court order, she said repeatedly, "I don't want it done."

https://www.aclu.org/other/coercive-and-punitive-governmental-responses-womens-conduct-during-pregnancy

Laura Pemberton was in active labor in her home in Florida. Her doctors believed she was putting her unborn child in danger by attempting to have a vaginal birth after cesarean so they obtained a court order to force her to have a C-section. The sheriff went to her home, took her into custody, strapped her legs together and forced her to go to the hospital where an emergency hearing determined the state’s interest in protecting her unborn baby. Laura and her husband were not allowed legal counsel. Ultimately, she was forced to have the surgery she’d refused and felt was unnecessary. When she later sued for violation of civil rights, the court ruled that the state’s interest outweighed Laura’s First, Fourth and Fourteenth amendment rights. Laura subsequently gave birth vaginally to three other healthy children, calling into question the medical predictions of harm from VBAC.

https://blog.everymothercounts.org/a-new-study-details-how-roe-v-wade-and-proposed-personhood-laws-affect-every-woman-b6450825d48

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Are you urging this court to find that you can handcuff a woman to a bed and force her to give birth (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jul 2022 OP
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