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usonian

(13,772 posts)
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:11 PM Sep 2023

Catholic Diocese of Cleveland Issues Sweeping Anti-LGBTQ Policies at Schools, Churches WARNING

Extreme prejudice.

Cleveland Inquisition.

Guidance includes outing trans students to parents, banning pride flats (sic) and preferred pronouns that don't match sex assigned at birth

By Maria Elena Scott on Mon, Sep 11, 2023

The Catholic Diocese of Cleveland has issued a sweeping policy statement on sexuality and gender identity in parishes and schools which LGBTQ advocates have called "chilling" and "draconian."

Among the items, it requires faculty and staff to out students to parents should they witness any signs of "gender dysphoria," bans gender transitions and the display of pride flags, and will outlaw same-sex couples from attending school dances. It does not recognize sexual orientations or identities like lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender and instead refers to people “experiencing gender dysphoria or gender confusion”.

“The standards really take to a new low some of the policies we've seen coming out of state houses around the country, as well as coming out in proposed bills out of the Ohio legislature." said Dr. Ben Huelskamp, executive director of LOVEboldly, a nonprofit dedicated to developing spaces where LGBTQ+ people can thrive in Christianity.

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“There's still hope available. There are still people in their parishes in their schools who will support them…We know that there are good and well meaning Catholics out there who either are themselves queer, or who totally support the queer community,” said Huelskamp. “That support does not go away because one bishop or one diocese says that they're going to embrace these, frankly, draconian policies."


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ItsjustMe

(11,692 posts)
1. Sweeping study finds 1,000 cases of sexual abuse in Swiss Catholic Church since mid-20th century
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:15 PM
Sep 2023
https://www.ncronline.org/news/sweeping-study-finds-1000-cases-sexual-abuse-swiss-catholic-church-mid-20th-century

Asweeping, year-long study of sex abuse by Catholic priests and others in Switzerland published Sept. 12 has turned up more than 1,000 cases since the mid-20th century, as the Swiss church becomes the latest in Europe to reckon with the abuse scandal.

With few exceptions, those accused of wrongdoing were all male. Nearly three-fourths of the documents examined showed the sexual abuse involved minors.

The report, commissioned by the Swiss Conference of Bishops and led by two University of Zurich historians, offers a deep look at sexual abuse and harassment that has confounded the Catholic Church across the globe in recent decades — upending the lives of many victims and their families, and tarnishing the image of the institution.

The authors said in a statement that they identified 1,002 "situations of sexual abuse," including accusations against 510 people. The abuse, they wrote, affected 921 people.

BOSSHOG

(39,836 posts)
3. I missed the part where the all powerful diocese
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:26 PM
Sep 2023

Is voluntarily giving up its tax exempt status because “it” has no respect for the separation of church and state. Apparently depending on republicans to uphold their hate. Catholicism in the 21st century.

There is a Huelskamp here in Kansas in the business of providing counseling to women and rape victims not to have abortions. And republicans in the state Capitol are providing him and his band of nazis with financial support.

No mention of corralling priests who sexually abuse children?

Thank You for posting. Usonian

usonian

(13,772 posts)
4. It wasn't fun.
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:38 PM
Sep 2023

Burns me up.

Odd coincidence about those names.

Like bad cops who are fired only to find jobs elsewhere, priests are just shuffled somewhere else where their crimes are not known. Yet.

There's no registry.

BOSSHOG

(39,836 posts)
6. To another parish 50 miles down the road
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:45 PM
Sep 2023

If a crime is committed, the priests alleged behavior does not belong to the church.

Let’s do away with the separation of church and state. Let the church dabble in the affairs of state as they do now. Let the church pay property taxes. Let the priests be tried for their alleged crimes in a public court.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
5. I can't stress enough how important this can become to everyone's well being. LGBTQ or not.
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 09:40 PM
Sep 2023

So I'll let a fictional character speak for me.

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keithbvadu2

(40,083 posts)
9. The church that protected/covered up their child molesting priests for many decades and moved them a
Sat Sep 16, 2023, 11:24 PM
Sep 2023

The church that protected/covered up their child molesting priests for many decades and moved them around to prey (correct sp) over more children.

Same-same for the Baptists and other religions.

A couple weeks of deep prayer, soul searching, repentance, and the obligatory 'God has forgiven me'.
Then it's back to business as usual.

It's only in the last relatively few years that the law has been allowed to make them accountable.

The Vatican took Cardinal Law over there physically to protect him from legal accountability here in America.

usonian

(13,772 posts)
11. The Devangelicals say "I'm forgiven"
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 12:09 AM
Sep 2023

And take that as a green light to do more of the same.

It's cult mentality to think the cult "legitimizes" vile behavior, and the mafia as well "legitimizes" crime as normal business. Unfortunately, so do many businesses and business people.

I have posted a bunch about this. And it boils down to some phony baloney "privilege".

That kind of closes the circle.


RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
12. The catholic church has a long history of horrible persecutions to the point of death.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:54 AM
Sep 2023

I've always thought the catholic church is full of sadists and child molesters.

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