Bones: The Forensic Evidence of Explosives.

[wildbilln864]

"...The absence of office furniture and equipment, and much of the Towers’ mass suggests that the Twin Towers did not collapse – they EXPLODED – and were demolished (WTC7). This is THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION to explain the thousands of tiny human bone fragments scattered about. No simple gravitational collapse, like the one on the official NIST Report, could possibly blast human skeletons to smithereens and deposit those smithereens all over the roof of a neighboring building.

Apart from those on flight 11, who do the other fragments on the Deutsche bank belong to? Where were these people most likely to be at the time of impact and collapse? And how can the gravitational forces of a collapse pulverize – fragmentalize – explode a human body into hundreds of fragments. 200 plus fragments were found from one person. How many fragments were not found from that body – 2,000? Maybe 10,000? But this is the one forensic discussion the mainstream media and the governmental investigative bodies want to avoid.

To be honest – I think an investigation will make little difference to what is already evident: There were fragments – minuscule fragments in the plume that spread all over and beyond the WTC site. This is more evidence – that adds to the already irrefutable proof that the buildings were ‘demolished’. "
http://gumshoenews.com/2014/09/08/bones-the-forensic-evidence-of-explosives/

[William Seger]

1. "THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION"

"... to explain the thousands of tiny human bone fragments scattered about."

If I were to say, "your Gumshoe is an idiot," that would not really be a "logical" conclusion because there could be other reasons why he might say something so asinine. It could be that he just doesn't understand what "logical" means, or perhaps he thinks you'll buy that nonsense because you're not very logical, or he might even be intentionally (rather than accidentally) demonstrating Poe's Law.

But we don't need to figure out his intentions to examine his "logic." He's saying that since the following events couldn't possibly explain "thousands of tiny human bone fragments scattered about," then "the only logical explanation" is massive quantities of magical silent explosives:

[wildbilln864]

3. so William...

please explain how the bone fragments were scattered around the collapses 600 feet away.

[William Seger]

4. My first guess would be...

... the bone fragments were scattered by the same mechanisms that scattered all the other debris: the energetic events shown in the pictures and the wind.

Now your turn: Explain to me why I should prefer to think it was massive quantities of magical silent explosives.

[wildbilln864]

5. ok, so...

you'd agree that along with those bone fragments lots of other materials were also projected up to a couple football fields away? Concrete, probably furniture, computers & electronics, drywall, etc? Apparently in all dirrections? Do you agree?

[William Seger]

6. Take your time

I'll check back later.

[wildbilln864]

7. so do you agree with what I said in post 5 or not?

my computer seems to need a new battery. but do you agree with post 5?

[William Seger]

8. So, do you have a point you'd like to make or not?

WTF? Yes, it certainly appears that everything in the planes and in the buildings got scattered, but exactly what got scattered exactly how far would be a different issue. If you have some argument you'd like to make about that, then please get on with it, already.

[wildbilln864]

9. thank you...bear with me please...

do you know that the towers were built with 47 massive steel support core columns that tapered from the ground up meaning that the columns and other framing members were stronger and thicker as they got closer to the ground? Therefore the resistance to collapse increases as the debris comes down onto it. And a huge amount of the building was projected outward in all directions for up to 600 ft as the building collapsed. Do you agree?

[William Seger]

10. If you're trying to establish the premises of your argument

... it's your job to state your premises clearly and provide the evidence for any that aren't already well established. Then, you are expected to declare what you conclude from them. Then we have something to talk about.

Last time for this game: If you have an argument, let's hear it. Take all the time you need. I'll check back.

[wildbilln864]

11. trying to but you want to evade...

trying to establish some mutual understanding. Do you disagree with the points I asked about?
You spend plenty of time here so no need to rush.
Do you agree that the towers' core columns became thicker and stronger as they got lower to the ground?

[William Seger]

12. WTF? Yes, stuff went everywhere.

No, I'm not agreeing with your vaguely worded description of debris scattering, nor will I until you state your claims much more precisely and then clearly state what you conclude from them.

Yes, the columns got thicker. Now, do you agree that as the collapse progressed, more and more mass was falling faster and faster? And do you agree that the equation E_k = 1/2 mv² describes the kinetic energy of that accumulating m and accelerating v?

And do you agree that column buckling was not the predominant failure mode, anyway; that the primary failure mode was floor framing being ripped away from the columns? And do you agree that, unlike the columns, the floors weren't progressively stronger going down the building; that they were the same on every floor except for the mechanical floors?

So, wouldn't you agree that your argument doesn't yet seem to be heading any place relevant to why anyone should believe in magical silent explosives?

[wildbilln864]

13. I agree that column buckling was not the predominant failure mode, anyway...

I disagree with " that the primary failure mode was floor framing being ripped away from the columns?"!

the columns also failed to support any of the remainder of the falling section even thought they get larger and stronger on the way down and the collapses projected large mass of the buildings in all directions for up to 600 ft.! Yet the collapses never slowed down all the way to the ground!
You're advocating "pancaking" which was not the case!

[William Seger]

14. Then you've got a LOT more work to do

Your "argument" is starting to sound like, "I don't understand how this could happen, so neither can you."

[wildbilln864]

15. but I do understand how it did happen!

CD!

[zappaman]

2. Wow.

Now that's a reach!
Is this what truther arguments have come to?

[Logical]

17. This place cracks me up, like reading bad fiction. Nt

[superbeachnut]

16. 911 truth, 13 years of nonsense and action...

911 truth, a movement which prohibits the use of logic, physics, math, engineering and more.



In the 14th year of silent explosives and BS dumbed down for failed followers. Unable to get the Pulitzer Prize for what is the biggest story of an inside job in history, why, no evidence, only fantasy.

Where do the silent explosives come from? Wait it was thermite, how does thermite spread bones which were spread by an aircraft impact at 590 mph? Anyone see a body hitting a building at 590 mph? Anyone? On 911 they did... Anyone see a body crushed in kinetic energy event equal in energy to 130 tons of TNT, in each collapse of the WTC. Why can't 911 truth do physics? Oh, math and physics are prohibited for 911 truth followers.


"how can the gravitational forces of a collapse pulverize – fragmentalize – explode a human body into hundreds of fragments. " E=mgh, the collapse released over 130 Tons of TNT stored in the WTC. like 130 2,000 pound bombs, is enough to pulverize, fragment, and explode a human body... it only takes 9 pounds of TNT to completely destroy a human body, and the energy in the WTC collapse was enough to completely destroy 60,000 people - physics/math, why can't 911 truth do the math, the gross part; too busy spreading lies based on ignornace and hate. Anyone want these figure in joules...