Richard Gage of AE911Truth on C-Span's Washington Journal Friday Aug 1st, 9:15am EDT

[JohnyCanuck]

From C-Span's web site:

August 1, 2014
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Founder Richard Gage talks about his group, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, which claims that the World Trade Center was brought down by explosive demolition on September 11, 2001.

This program has not yet aired

Airing LIVE Friday 9:15am EDT on C-SPAN

http://www.c-span.org/video/?320748-5/washington-journal-architects-engineers-911-truth

[zappaman]

1. Time to load in some more cash from the gullible I suppose.

[IronGate]

2. Yep.

Just another charlatan push CT bullshit.

[superbeachnut]

3. Fraud on C-Span

Gage lies on TV, not the first time, not the last. Funded with 500k/yr, when will Gage's fake movement stop growing from donations from dumbed down gullible conspiracy theorists who can't figure out 911.

[gyroscope]

4. NIST: We did not test for any explosive residue

22. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues?


NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

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At this point you have to be a complete moron to swallow the official story.

[AZCat]

5. Why would NIST test for explosive or thermite residue?

Posting about this without understanding the context of their decision is pretty foolish, unless you're looking to cherry-pick bits of information that only look like they support your wild claims when absent said context. Then you just look desperate.

[gyroscope]

6. And what context or motive would that be?

a political one? because it sure isn't a scientific one. NIST can speculate and blow hot air all they want but if they can't back up their claims with scientific experiment and testing it is utterly meaningless.



'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.'
--Richard P. Feynman, Nobel laureate in physics

[AZCat]

7. Well, there you go.

It appears you aren't aware of the context of the NIST's work, and the reason why they wouldn't have tested for residue. This isn't uncommon, unfortunately.

[gyroscope]

8. NIST and their apologists

I've never seen more hot air coming from one place.





But do feel free to explain this context that you speak of, if you can.
Please explain why NIST refuses to test for explosives? Thanks.
It's not classified information is it? This should be good.

[superbeachnut]

9. Gage has no clue, and claims to have "overwhelming evidence", he has nothing

No steel showed signs of explosives. oops, there goes your balloon, pop...

Gage lies, he has no "overwhelming evidence", he says he does, but you can't produce it, because Richard Gage has nothing but talk, and followers (followers, not leaders) who repeat his lies for free; while Gage cashes in on donations of 500k/yr, traveling and spending his money supporting himself. A scam for one, using volunteers to do the work. All Gage does is ask for donations and BS his cult members with the chant of, "we want a new investigation". Gage plagiarized his claims from a failed movement of woo, 911 truth, all based on lies, hearsay and idiotic opinions.

You can't support any of his claims. In fact, Gage has no clue who, what, or how his CD fantasy worked, he needs a new investigation. He lies about 911, and people too dumb to figure out 911 send money. What a scam.

[gyroscope]

11. No sign of explosives?

how do you know that without testing? are you a psychic? black magic? the voices in your head?
just curious.

[superbeachnut]

13. Gage sells lies, and can't figure out 911

No blast effects on any steel, no sounds of explosives. Richard Gage lies about 911 and makes 500k/yr.
Gage said he has overwhelming evidence; which is a lie. You can't list it, and you can't prove explosives. No big deal, 911 truth has not produced any evidence for 13 years, and they never will.
Gage offers no theory, he offers fantasy of CD, silent explosives, and thermite that leaves no products.
You have opinions from failed conspiracy theorists, and you can't take action. You never will.

Where are you stuck discussing your fantasy? Creative Speculation, and Gage is more like dumbed down speculation. Your claims about 911 are fantasy. Where is your proof of explosives? Safe in the fantasy in Gage's mind.

2007 FORM 990-EZ - $ 45,132
2008 FORM 990-EZ - $149,579
2009 FORM 990-EZ - $344,570
2010 FORM 990-EZ - $434,526
2011 FORM 990-EZ - $469,362
Here is what Gage has made, and what has he done; nothing but talk.
In 2012 Gage took in more than 500,000 dollars which he used to travel. How many times has he traveled the world, asking for more money. lol, what a scam, and gullible people who don't understand simile fall for his lies.
Gage has no evidence, he never did. Richard Gage plagiarized the best sounding claptrap to fool paranoid gullible conspiracy theorists and he made a presentation, and lives of the donations, travels, buys the best suits, the latest gadgets, and you support his lies with nothing but faith.

[gyroscope]

22. No blast effects on the steel?

again, how do you know that without testing?

do you use black magic? because it isn't science.

[superbeachnut]

23. blast effects would be on the steel - the WTC was studied

The steel was studied. ... , you failed to read the NIST report.

Engineers looked for evidence. you missed it



No sounds of explosives. No thermite in the dust. No blast damage, no one killed by bombs.

Where is your evidence hiding

[IronGate]

24. Not one report I studied during one of my many Fire Science Academy courses

mentioned anything about traces of explosives, blast damage to the steel, no explosions heard.
The only one here full of hot air is the one who posted the pic of the balloon, and Mr. Gage.

[gyroscope]

25. Repeating something over and over

until you are blue in the face as you are doing....doesn't make it true.

that's not science, its wishful thinking

[zappaman]

26. Exactly.

Truthers saying the same debunked nonsense over and over is magical thinking at it's finest.

[gyroscope]

27. You are correct

the mickey mouse 9/11 commission report and laughable NIST investigation

are Bush league magical thinking at its finest. thanks for clearing that up.

the official story is as credible and real as the WMDs in Iraq lol.

[superbeachnut]

28. Richard Gage is the one laughing

Richard Gage had no job, so he started talking about 911, no he takes in 500,000 dollars a years fooling people with the lies you repeat freely for him. He pays himself about 80,000 dollars from his 500k. He uses the rest to to tour the USA, Canada, and the world.

911 truth followers repeat his lies with no evidence. Richard Gage, the fraud on 911 issues has no "theory" on what happened on 911, yet he spreads lies of CD, thermite, and high explosives. Richard Gage lies about 911, he has zero evidence.

911 truth followers can't list anything wrong with NIST, and 911 truth followers never read NIST. 911 truth followers spread lies for free and Richard Gage takes the money.

911 truth followers support lies because it makes them feel like they are winning against Bush. BTW, Bush is not president. Your political bias has you spreading more lies than Bush did. You are winning in spreading lies.

List the laughable items in the NIST reports, page numbers volumes please. List your claims against NIST.

Good luck

The good part of Richard Gage scam spreading lies on 911, it identifies people who can't think for themselves, and it keeps Gage off of welfare, unemployment, and has him paying some taxes. Gage could pay himself 150,000 dollars, but he only pays himself to the 15 percent bracket, avoiding the excess taxes of 6,000 dollars if he took 150k. Thus he can buy more airline tickets and tour the world with his plagiarized presentation of lies, fantasy and dumbed down opinions.

Richard Gage fools a fringe few who support him with 500,000 dollar a year, and all Gage has to do is trash talk on 911. He fooled you will lies based on nothing but hearsay, opinions and delusions.
You don't have any evidence, and you don't know it. 13th year of complete failure for all in 911 truth but Gage, who travels the world on other peoples money. Some people think he believes what he says, but that would make him insane or the dumbest human on earth, with his only peers, his followers.

[gyroscope]

29. Cool story bro

do you also believe there were aliens and Wmds in Iraq?

[superbeachnut]

30. repeating the two things you got right in the universe will not make Gage's lies turn to truth

Don't get upset you can't list Richard Gage's evidence, it is trick question, Richard Gage has lies, no evidence.

Why can you figure out aliens are BS, and WMDs are BS, but you can't figure out Gage is spreading insane lies. 66 percent right so far - what about Bigfoot, that would raise you to 75 percent.

[gyroscope]

31. Well for one

they are coming from the same source. the same charlatans (namely the Bush administration) who gave us the Wmds BS was also in charge of administering the 9/11 investigation. so excuse me if I have a hard time believing them about anything. but I guess some are easily fooled.

fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

[cpwm17]

32. That's where you are wrong.

You need to recognize who are the scam artists and who to trust.

Politicians are generally not trust worthy and politics is frequently corrupt. The Bush White House invented its own reality with the assistance of a very biased media. Media outlets are privately owned, so the reporting often reflects the biases of the owners or the narrow range of viewpoints allowed in US politics.

That's how all of the obvious BS lies were presented as fact by the media and US government. The gullible, of an authoritarian nature, fell for the lies and Bush got his unprovoked war against Iraq. Plus authoritarians are more than happy having the US drop bombs on brown people. It's the nature of the authoritarians' poor moral character plus authoritarians believe in the CT's of the powerful against the weak. Axis of evil, WMD's, the Muslims are coming: are all CT's of the powerful to make the public fear the weak.

The flip side of the same coin to the authoritarians, without all of the blood and guts, are the traditional CT'ers. They refuse to believe anyone in authority or anyone that supports them, when it suits their needs, regardless of the motivations of the person in authority. But the people that have come to the conclusion that the towers were brought down by the aircraft were scientists, engineers, witnesses, including everyone with common sense that can see that the buildings collapsed from the aircraft impact zones.

Richard Gage is a transparent scam artist. You refuse to see that because he tells you what you want to hear. He's lying to you.

[gyroscope]

33. Cool story bro!

Richard Gage is a transparent scam artist. You refuse to see that because he tells you what you want to hear. He's lying to you.

and you believe the Bush administration is telling you the truth?
haha good one bro. high five! I like your sense of ironic humor.

[cpwm17]

34. Apparently you didn't read my "cool story" or understand it. n/t

[AZCat]

35. It's pretty simple.

NIST was not tasked with exploring every possible cause. The context of their report was the National Construction Safety Team Act, which "provide(d) for the establishment of investigative teams to assess building performance and emergency response and evacuation procedures in the wake of any building failure that has resulsted in substantial loss of life or that posed significant potential of substantial loss of life."

NIST was tasked with "establish(ing) the likely technical cause or causes of the building failure." Based on the evidence gathered by the various entities prior to and during the NIST investigation, explosives were not determined to be a likely technical cause of building failure for WTC 1, 2 or 7. You and your colleagues may find this to be a probable cause, but the professionals who contributed to the NIST NCSTARs did not agree.

[wildbilln864]

36. are you sure AZ?

[AZCat]

37. Yes, I am.

You can check the wording in the act yourself, if you don't trust me.

[gyroscope]

38. That doesn't fly

NIST was not tasked with exploring every possible cause.

If that were true, why didn't NIST mention that in their FAQ when asked if they had performed testing for explosive residue?

Secondly, it would be pretty darn convenient for the Bush administration to limit the scope of the investigation in such a way that no official testing for the use of explosives could ever be performed.

Gee, now why would they do that I wonder?

[superbeachnut]

39. upset your silent explosives CD fantasy was not investigated?

Did you want them to investigate Bigfoot?

How can they investigate 911 truth followers fantasy version of 911 when 911 truth followers have no evidence. They can't do fantasy, all the evidence is locked in 911 truth followers heads, safe with their silly dumbed down fantasy of CD, thermite and the super secret silent high explosives (SSSHE).
Really how do you investigate something which did not happen?

[gyroscope]

40. Supertrollnut strikes again

good job dude!

[AZCat]

41. Because it should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense.

NIST didn't explore space beams for the same reason. If you don't believe me check the act yourself. It's right there in the text.

The scope of the investigation is limited by common sense. If it doesn't appear explosives were used, NIST (or another agency) doesn't have to check for them. The limitations are in place so nobody goes wild, a la Ken Starr, on investigatory dead ends.

[superbeachnut]

10. OOPS, Gage lies and people send him money

Gage says thermite was used. No steel shows damage from thermite. OOPS

Gage says high explosives were used in the towers - no damage to steel from explosives. OOPS

Gage says he has overwhelming evidence, yet he can't produce any. OOPS

Gage lies and people who can't think for themselves fall for it.

No sounds on 911 from explosives. OOPS


13th year of failure for 911 truth, and Gage has failed to list his evidence, but followers think there is evidence. His followers can't list the evidence, they are faith based believers in CD woo, and the undefined inside job. Cool part during the CSPAM crap today... Gage has adopted pilots for truth failed creed, of "we offer no theory", we need a new investigation; Gage is a fraud, 911 truth only offer lies and what sounds good to paranoid conspiracy theorists who think 13 years of failure is a good start.

The CSPAN guy debunked Gage using NIST, it was funny, 911 truth believers don't understand reality.

Why did people survive in a stairwell of the WTC towers with all the high explosives going off? Are all 911 truth faith based followers ignorant of blast effects? Do any 911 truth faith based followers realize the energy that did the destruction of the WTC complex was equal to over 260 2,000 pounds bombs, and this can be calculated before collapse by using E=mgh? Why are 911 truth followers unable to do physics?

[wildbilln864]

12. thanks and k & r! n/t

[superbeachnut]

14. Why can't 911 truth cult members list Gage's evidence

Where is Gage's overwhelming evidence? Gage says he has it, but failed to produce anything more than insane claims of thermite, idiotic claims of high explosives (silent explosive, what a fantasy), and the delusional CD claims.

Gage also says he offers no theory, yet we have lies of CD, lies of thermite, and lies of high explosives - no theory, only fantasy.

13th year, and 911 truth has failed to do anything of value, except for Gage, he took in 500,000 dollars in 2012 - not bad for selling lies, and doing nothing but talk.

[MrMickeysMom]

15. When did 911 truth members stop beating their wives?

Makes as much sense as the usual pile on idiotic comments these threads get.

You guys still have little to do outside your basement work, don't you?

[superbeachnut]

16. Basement, who needs a stinkin basement - Gage lies, idiots send money - type faster

Why would you keep your smart phone in the basement? Laptop - why are you stuck in the basement commenting on idiotic comments.

Where is your great comment - oh it is a weak insult based on what might be your plight of being stuck with your computer in the basement? or slow typing skills?

Take typing class, you will not slave over your posts, in your basement for hours. Personally i prefer posting anywhere I wish, we now have tablets, phones, voice recognition, etc - you don't have to stay in mom's basement any longer, you can get out.
Yes, speed up you typing to high speed, and waste less time posting super comments.

Poor Gage, only makes 500,000 dollars in 2012 giving speeches to paranoid conspracyt theorists who need a new investigation to understand fire did it.

But you are right, the idiot Gage and 911 truth have failed to figure out 911 - makes my comments idiotic.

My basement...

Does you mom make you stay in the basement, or is it your wife - take typing class, you can use typing tutor, or something, it will help you spend your time more wisely, responding with high speed.
https://www.typingweb.com/typingtutor
get a lap top

[MrMickeysMom]

17. WTF are you even talking about?

"MrMickeysMom"… hmmm… in accordance with your logic, would have a "wife"?

Must be the Fosters you're drinking… shitty beers go with nonsense like a cracker in the South.

[superbeachnut]

18. finished the typing course ... not wasting as much time in your mom's basement, with wife

... your mom makes you stay in the basement with your wife...

see what faster typing does ... why call a beer names, failing to provide a list of great beers - wait I made great beer, never mind

yes, most store bought beer is not the same as the thousands of beers waiting to be tasted on pint night, on tap, by small breweries all over the country -

I have hundreds of Grolsch bottles, waiting for a fresh brew... now school me on beer, you can't comment on the OP, why not impart the super beer stuff since Gage is a fraud, what is the beer while typing about liars like Gage, what is the best choice, or is it a constantly changing taste of exploring the infinite possibilities for beer, lets hop right on that

[MrMickeysMom]

19. You can't be schooled because no one could possibly argue with Stu...

You sound like you need some deep counseling. You can dig up all the arguments about Truth and Richard Gage and building 7 and false flag operations from all of the old DU2 "Dungeon" posts, if you want arguments to be re-leased.

Your post is as diminutive as they get.

[superbeachnut]

20. i was ready to be schooled on beer, where is the teacher

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I agree, Richard Gage's lies are stupid. got it

911 truth in the 13th year of failure - old news - what is your point

yes, my posts are diminutive, super-nano-diminutive - but what about the OP, why is Richard Gage spreading lies about 911

[MrMickeysMom]

21. You'll have to ask the OP about that