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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:49 AM May 2019

Former Head of Pentagon's Secret UFO Program Has Some (Strange) Stories to Tell

Intelligence officer Luis Elizondo served as the former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), an initiative launched in 2007 to study reports of UFO encounters. Elizondo departed the agency in 2011; in 2017, he spoke with reporters at The New York Times, confirming the existence of the shadowy agency and describing its mission.

During Elizondo's tenure at AATIP, observers reported UFOs flying at hypersonic speeds — more than five times the speed of sound. Yet there were none of the signatures that usually accompany aircraft flying at such fantastic speeds, such as sonic booms, he said. The UFOs were also unexpectedly mobile, traveling so fast that they would have experienced gravitational forces, or G-forces, that far exceed the limits of endurance for both humans and aircraft.

The human body can withstand about 9 G's "for a very short time" before a person would start to black out, Elizondo said. "These things that we were observing were pulling 400 to 500 G's," he said. "They don't have engines or even wings, and they are able to seemingly defy the natural effects of Earth's gravitational pull."

"We trust the American people to know that North Korea has nuclear warheads pointed at Los Angeles, yet we don't trust them with the knowledge that there's something in our skies and we don't know what it is? That seems counterproductive to me," Elizondo said.

https://www.livescience.com/65596-ufo-pentagon-history-channel.html

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Former Head of Pentagon's Secret UFO Program Has Some (Strange) Stories to Tell (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2019 OP
Something is happening. trev May 2019 #1
Yeah...but dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #2
I haven't decided that's what they are, actually. trev Jun 2019 #3
These sightings date at least from WW2 happyaccident Jun 2019 #4
Yes, in the modern era. trev Jun 2019 #5
Somethings are surely there. The question is what. MicaelS Jun 2019 #6

trev

(1,480 posts)
1. Something is happening.
Fri May 31, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

It may be a matter of national security. I for one am happy to see the Pentagon taking this stuff seriously.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
2. Yeah...but
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jun 2019


Problem with attributing them to a secret craft of Russia or China is we see them as a "threat", and going down that rabbit hole leaves no room for any other possibilities.

trev

(1,480 posts)
3. I haven't decided that's what they are, actually.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jun 2019

But I like to consider all possibilities. I'm thinking of how, with the exception of landing a man on the moon, the Russians beat us to pretty much every space landmark: first satellite, first man in orbit, first spacewalk, first woman in space, first space station.... Their technology is not to be belittled.

As for China, I don't think they're capable of building things like this. (I'm actually beginning to wonder if we are.... It's my opinion that the Space Shuttle program was a devastating sidetrack from space exploration. I think it was an outgrowth of Reagan's Star Wars fantasy, carrying more military payloads than scientific ones.)

But who knows? At this point, all we can do is try to learn as much about these objects as we can. And it appears that the Pentagon is on track with this.

 

happyaccident

(136 posts)
4. These sightings date at least from WW2
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jun 2019

I don't think they're humans. Maybe drones from an long extinct alien species?

trev

(1,480 posts)
5. Yes, in the modern era.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jun 2019

Sightings are recorded throughout history, starting from 5000 years ago.

I think Earth was colonized in prehistory. I also think that modern UFOs are human creations based on alien technology. I'm not totally convinced that there are no ETs on the planet today; I've had some odd encounters....

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
6. Somethings are surely there. The question is what.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jun 2019

When the US Navy admits they are encountering UFOs, or UAPs, whatever term you want to use, then something is there.

Not saying they are aliens, but someone, or something, is flying these things. They could be very advanced drones, or autonomous vehicles being flow by our own government or foreign governments.

When trained observers, aka airline and military pilots, keep seeing UAPs, then THAT tells me something is there. No matter how skeptics try to explain it away.

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