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William Seger

(11,031 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:14 AM Apr 2015

All the president's (little green) men

All the president's (little green) men: How Ronald Reagan asked Soviet rival Mikhail Gorbachev for help fighting alien invasion

  • Ronald Reagan asked Mikhail Gorbachev for help with aliens at summit

  • The former US President and actor was said to be a science fiction fan

  • He arranged private screenings of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and asked Gorbachev for help dealing with any future alien invasion

  • Reagan's advisers edited out mentions of aliens in subsequent speeches

Former American President Ronald Reagan asked Mikhail Gorbachev for help from Russia to 'fight the alien invader'.

The president and former actor went off-script during a peace summit in Geneva in the 1980s to ask the Soviet leader for his support in the event of an invasion from extra terrestrial life.

Reagan repeated the warning when he spoke to a group of students, and his subsequent speeches were examined by his advisers to remove any mention of aliens in them.

He confessed his favourite story was 'the invasion from outer space that prompts earthlings to put aside nationalistic quarrels and band together to fight the alien invader'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3045894/How-Ronald-Reagan-asked-Soviet-rival-Mikhail-Gorbachev-help-fighting-alien-invasion.html#ixzz3Y8o1e8ZT

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All the president's (little green) men (Original Post) William Seger Apr 2015 OP
Bill & Hillary often talked about ETs frogmarch Apr 2015 #1
From Chelsea Manning & WikiLeaks: OnyxCollie Apr 2015 #2

frogmarch

(12,223 posts)
1. Bill & Hillary often talked about ETs
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:01 AM
Apr 2015

but neither said they believed in them, only that they liked movies showing people of the world putting aside their differences and working together to thwart attempts by ET aliens to conquer Earth.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/bill-clinton/114-clinton-ufo-talk

Excerpt:

Clinton was a big fan of the movie Independence Day, and he spoke highly of it a number of times. On the day of the movie’s release, at the 200th Birthday Celebration for Youngstown Ohio, Clinton said this of the movie.

Somebody joked with me ‑‑ I don't know if any of you have seen this new movie "Independence Day" ‑‑ (applause) ‑‑ but somebody said I was coming to Youngstown because this is the day the White House got blown away by space aliens. (Laughter) I hope it's there when I get back. (Laughter) Anyway, I recommend the movie. I got a chance to see it the other night.[3]

A couple weeks after the release of the movie, still inspired by the Independence Day movie, President Clinton made yet another alien invasion remark.

Very interesting, don't you think, that this movie, Independence Day, is becoming the most successful movie ever? Some say it's because they blew up the White House and the Congress ‑‑ (laughter) ‑‑ and that may be. But, you know, you see story after story after story about how the movie audiences leap up and cheer at the end of the movie when we vanquish the alien invaders, right? I mean, what happened? The country was flat on its back, the rest of the world was threatened, and you see all over the world all these people have all of a sudden put aside the differences that seem so trivial once their existence was threatened, and they're working together all over the world to defeat a common adversary.

The next alien invasion comments came from Hillary Clinton who seemed to share the President’s interest in the alien invasion concept. On October 13, 1998, at Spanish Hall, Prague Castle Hillary said:

In one of those popular movies I referred to that swept my country and apparently made a lot of money around the world, called Independence Day — these movies always seem to start with an attack on Washington, D.C., which I don’t really know how to take, the blowing up of the White House and Capitol to begin with—the ending of it required all of us to cooperate to fend off an alien attack. And certainly in the theater in which I saw it, there were great cheers as people of all different races and backgrounds and societies around the globe came together as human beings to save ourselves. We certainly don’t expect it to come to that... [5]

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
2. From Chelsea Manning & WikiLeaks:
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:05 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11354937

http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1975RABAT01225_b.html

1. PERHAPS RELATED TO PHENOMENA DESCRIBED REFTEL, MARCH
18 LE MATIN CARRIED REPORT THAT HUNDREDS OF CASABLANCANS
HAD SEEN TWO UFOS HOVERING WEST OF CITY ON PRECEDING
EVENING. OBJECTS DESCRIBED AS GREENISH IN COLOR, BECOMING
LUMINOUS BEFORE RISING SLOWLY TO DISAPPEAR OVER
WESTERN HORIZON. ON FOLLOWING DAY, PAPER SAID SAME
PHENOMENON OBSERVED OVER RABAT AND FES AND EVEN OVER
NORTH OF SPAIN BUT EXPLAINED IT AS NO MORE THAN AN INFREQUENT
CONJUNCTION OF VENUS WITH SIRIUS, CITING "AMATEUR CASABLANCA
ASTROLOGIST" AS AUTHORITY. (WE PRESUME ASTRONOMIST TERM
INTENDED).

2. WE HAVE NOT BEEN QUERIED OFFICIALLY BY GOM AUTHORITIES
ON PHENOMENON AND HAVE SEEN NO REPORTS ON OTHER UFO
SIGHTINGS. LE MATIN'S EXPLANATIONS SEEM TO HAVE SATISFIED
LIMITED OFFICIAL USE

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PAGE 02 RABAT 01225 110917Z

THE FEW DIPLOMATS AND OTHER OBSERVERS WHO INITIALLY
WONDERED WHETHER THE U.S. MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.
NEUMANN


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https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976RABAT05209_b.html

1. YESTERDAY, THE 23RD OF SEPTEMBER, COL HOUSNI BENSLIMANE,
COMMANDER OF THE ROYAL GENDARMERIE, REQUESTED TO SEE ME AT
1000 HOURS THE SAME DAY. WHEN HE ARRIVED, COL BENSLIMANE SAID
THAT THE KING HAD SENT HIM TO DISUCSS THE SIGHTINGS OF
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS (UFO'S) OVER MOROCCO ON THE NIGHT
OF 18-19 SEPTEMBER. ACCORDING TO COL BENSLIMANE, THE
GENDARMERIE HAD RECEIVED CALLS FROG AGADIR, THE MARRAKECH AREA,
CASABLANCA, RABAT, KENITRA AND OTHER AREAS REPORTING THE
SIGHTING OF UFO'S BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 0100 AND 0130, THE
NIGHT OF 18-19 SEPTEMBER. REPORTS FROM THESE WIDELY SEPARATE
LOCATIONS WERE REMARKABLY SIMILAR, I.E., THAT THE OBJECT WAS
ON A GENERALLY SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST COURSE, IT WAS A
SILVERY LUMINOUS CIRCULAR SHAPE AND GAVE OFF INTERMITTENT TRAILS
OF BRIGHT SPARKS AND FRAGMENTS, AND MADE NO NOISE. HE PROMISED
TO PROVIDE FURTHER DETAILS TODAY, THE 24TH OF SEPTEMBER AND
ASKED THAT WE FURNISH ANY INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ON
THESE SIGHTINGS. COL BENSLIMANE SAID THE KING WAS PERSONALLY
INTERESTED. I PROMISED THAT WE WOULD DO WHAT WE COULD.

2. TODAY, THE 24TH, A MAJOR MOHAMED LISSAOUI OF THE ROYAL
GENDARMERIE MET WITH DATT AND GAVE HIM A SUMMARY OF THE
SIGHTINGS. LISSAOUI ALSO PERMITTED DATT TO LOOK AT DRAWINGS
CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL

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OF THE UFO PREPARED BY VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING HIMSELF,
WHO HAD SIGHTED THE UFO.

3. THE TIMES OF THE SIGHTINGS VARIED FROM 0100 TO 0200 HOURS
ON THE MORNING OF 19 SEPTEMBER, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THEM OCCURRING
BETWEEN 0100 AND 0130 HOURS. SIGHTINGS WERE REPORTED FROM
AGADIR, KALAA-SRAGHNA, ESSAOUIRA, CASABLANCA, RABAT, KENITRA,
MEKNES AND THE FEZ REGION. THERE WAS GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THE
UFO WAS PROCEEDING ON AN APPROXIMATELY SOUTH TO NORTH COURSE,
GENERALLY PARALLEL TO THE MOROCCAN ATLANTIC COAST, AT AT
ESTIMATED ALTITUDE OF 1,000 METERS, AND THAT THERE WAS
ABSOLUTELY NO SOUND FROM THE UFO.

4. DESCRIPTIONS OF THE UFO FELL INTO TWO GENERAL CATEGORIES,
I.E., A TYPE OF SILVER COLORED LUMINOUS FLATTENED BALL (DISC-
SHAPED), OR A LARGE LUMINOUS TUBE-SHAPED OBJECT. OBSERVERS
REPORTED THAT THE OBJECT INTERMITTENTLY EMITTED BRIGHT SPARKS
FROM THE REAR.

5. MAJOR LISSAOUI SAID HE WAS SENT TO BRIEF DATT ON THE
SUBJECT BECAUSE HE HAD HIMSELF SIGHTED THE UFO WHILE RETURNING
FROM THE CITY OF KENITRA AT ABOUT 0115 IN THE MORNING. HE
DESCRIBED THE UFO AS FLYING PARALLEL TO THE COAST AT A RELATIVELY
SLOW SPEED, AS IF IT WERE AN AIRCRAFT PREPARING TO LAND. IT
FIRST APPEARED TO HIM AS A DISC-SHAPED OBJECT, BUT AS IT CAME
CLOSER HE SAW IT AS A LUMINOUS TUBULAR-SHAPED OBJECT.

6. I FRANKLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THESE SIGHTINGS,
ALTHOUGH I FIND INTRIGUING THE SIMILARITY OF DESCRIPTIONS
REPORTED FROM WIDELY DISPERSED LOCATIONS. IN ANY EVENT, I WISH
TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND PROMPTLY TO KING HASSAN'S REQUEST FOR
INFORMATION, AND WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO
ASSIST ME IN THIS.
ANDERSON


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