How Jewish Supremacy Tore Israeli Society Apart

[Israeli]

We once marched together at protests, but in the intervening years you and many others have changed your views. An open letter to a right-wing friend

Not long ago, by chance, I happened on a post of yours, long and well-reasoned, not particularly militant, that generated numerous Likes. In the distant past we were friends, almost best friends. We shared a similar worldview, similar dreams and hopes. Since then we have gone our separate ways. Occasionally we send each other a greeting, albeit in the knowledge that beyond this the affinity between us has faded.

But I see your words before me now, and they prompt me to examine the distance between us, the separate worlds, but also perhaps to discern what is left of the connecting dots. In what follows I will try to do this as honestly as I can and through this, you will get a response to what you wrote.

Do you remember how, back then, on the eve of Yom Kippur, after the end of Shabbat Shuvah 5743 (Sept. 25, 1982), we stood together, shoulder to shoulder, among a mass of people in what was then called Kings of Israel Square, today's Rabin Square, in Tel Aviv? With awe and dread we stood there, in a suffocating crush. We stood and cried out over the massacre of innocents in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon. A massacre perpetrated on the watch of the Israel Defense Forces, in the midst of a controversial war.

About a tenth of the population of the State of Israel stood together with us on that evening after Shabbat. The streets around the square were teeming with women and men; together we demanded the establishment of a commission of inquiry into the events of that massacre. About a month later, the Kahan Commission was established; it submitted its conclusions four months later. Immediately afterward, and in the wake of the same chain of events, Emil Grunzweig, an educator and peace activist, was murdered not far from the Knesset during a Peace Now rally, whose participants were violently attacked along the way. We remember the blast of the grenade that killed Emil. It was a sign of things to come.

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Continue reading @ https://archive.md/ohAX2

Source : Haaretz .

[Lonestarblue]

1. Israel has turned into a rogue state run by their equivalent of the MAGA cult.

We do not want such people running the US. Why do so many approve them running Israel?

[Israeli]

2. Emil Grunzweig murdered 33 years ago

10.2.16

33 years ago today, Emil Grunzweig was murdered by an extreme right wing activist at a Peace Now demonstration.
On 10 February 1983, Peace Now organized a demonstration in Jerusalem, calling the government to adopt the Kahan Commission’s recommendations following the Sabra and Shatila massacre. Violent right wing activists screamed, cursed, pushed and beat the demonstrators as they marched towards the Prime Minister’s office. Emil Grunzweig was 35 years old when he was killed from a grenade thrown by Yona Avrushmi, following massive incitement against the Israeli left.

This is the result of incitement. The level of incitement we are seeing today is reminding us of the incitement in February 1983 and November 1995. In 2016 high level officials are the ones leading the incitement. We call upon the government to wake up and act now in order to prevent the next murder.

With your help, our voice against incitement and for peace and democracy can be louder. Please share this post and consider supporting Peace Now:

https://peacenow.org.il/en/emil-grunzweig-murdered-33-years-ago

[Mosby]

3. You know the Palestinians consider Tel Aviv a Jewish settlement

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They consider pretty much all of Israel a illegal Jewish Settlement. Why else the demand for unlimited right of return. The refugee population exceeds 6.5 million, where do you suppose they are going to live? Jaffa?

Eta FYI Notions of Jewish Supremacy is usually expressed by white supremacists. This is maybe the first time I have read an essay by a so called leftist who is using the terms of nazis and white supremacists. Considering it's from Haaretz I shouldn't be surprised, the family who own it cut print because there was no money in it, and went all in on anti-zionist, anti-Israelism because that's where the money is. It's literally their niche.

Israeli, do you understand what's happening in the US and Europe right now with an explosion of antisemitism? This is beyond tone-deaf. Calling Jews supremacists is a far RW tactic to delegitamize Israel.

[Aussie105]

5. OK!

"Israeli, do you understand what's happening in the US and Europe right now with an explosion of antisemitism? This is beyond tone-deaf. Calling Jews supremacists is a far RW tactic to delegitamize Israel."

You confuse calls from around the world to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians with antisemitism.

Delegitimizing Israel as a Democratic country that tries to get on with its neigbours doesn't need any help, Israel is doing that all by itself.

But you have 2 choices:

1. Israel has no choice but to defend itself very aggressively, and the deaths of civilians in other countries doesn't matter.

2. See the slaughter of innocent civilians as inhumane.
And call for that to stop, without using emotionally laden rhetoric.

[Mosby]

6. You constructed a false dilemma logical fallacy.

A false dilemma, also known as the "either-or" fallacy, is a logical fallacy that occurs when a person presents only two options as if they are the only possibilities. This can create a false sense of limited options and force someone to choose between two extreme choices (Google AI).

Here's my number 3: Israel continues to defend itself from these illegal, genocidal attacks on the nation, taking care to minimize civilian casualties.

[Aussie105]

9. "taking care to minimize civilian casualties."

How realistic is that option though?

A great idea, when is that going to start happening?

Hard to do that if you are using 2,000 lb bombs to take out a single suspected enemy individual or position.

And what is the current kill ratio?

1 bad guy for 10 to 50 civilians?

What is your personal tolerance level for that?

[Eko]

4. Kick and rec

[Mosby]

7. How does Jewish Supremacy compare and contrast with White Supremacy?

Thoughts?

[Eko]

8. I'm sure there are similarities and differences

Between the two. Of course I have no idea if you are asking historically or currently. I would say what it is when you have 2 citizens and the laws give one of them on the basis of race or religion more rights than the other? What do you call that?.

[Israeli]

10. You call it Kach

Born in America and imported to here .

Rabbi Meir Kahane and Israel’s far right, explained

Understanding the predecessor to today’s Otzma Yehudit party — and his ideology — requires a look at his past

When Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu brokered a partnership between the extreme right-wing party Jewish Power, or Otzma Yehudit, and the more moderate right-wing Jewish Home, the late American-born Rabbi Meir Kahane was suddenly all over the news.

Kahane, whose extremist Kach party was outlawed in Israel several years after his assassination in 1990, is the ideological father of Jewish Power. By extending a welcoming hand to the party ahead of Israel’s April elections, Netanyahu was accused of legitimizing Kahane’s deep legacy of racism, violence and hatred.

But understanding Kahane — and his ideas — goes much deeper than just knowing that he has a link with Jewish Power.

Continued @ https://www.timesofisrael.com/rabbi-meir-kahane-and-israels-far-right-explained/